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Member Since: Mar 08, 2004

Hey got a quick question for ya.

I use my desktop to record local bands. I have a small studio and need to know a couple of things about mixing down the master.

I have set up my system this way: ex. the guitarist plays from the amp which i have
mic-ed. That mic cable runs into my mixer(pre-amp), which is then forwarded to my multi track interface which of course goes into my computer. Everything works fine...all the mixing is done with a program called Cool Edit Pro 2. I CAN HEAR THE NASHING OF TEETH ALREADY.

I have thought about going to Pro Tools but i find cool edit so much eaiser. Am i sacrificing quailty?

I use the cool edit plugins and i know that they are no where near the pro tools quality,but that is what my question is based on.

At the final mixdown i want to put effects to many tracks, but i do not like cool edits plug ins. Can i run a track out into an effects rack and then back in without having to sync it back up? Well, of course i tried to route it but i did indeed get feedback.

So. How do i get rack effects to my tracks and bring it back so it is synced up?

...P.S I get an amazing sound with the recording. Probably due to the musical equipment, but the final masters always seem like they are missing that final polish. like the big boys polish. that thing that makes the whole song one big track. Any ideas? (compression or dynamics)

thank you so much for entertaining my questions

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Thanks again even if you cant assist.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002

Mar 08, 2004 04:41 am

You are not loosing much by sticking with CEP...depending on what version you have, very early versions sounded bad...but they have improved.

I am unsure of the routing options in CEP, being a Sonar user myself. First, you have not mentioned what type of sound card you have, you will need one with at least 4 outs, two for stereo main outs and two for the sub out from which to send your track.

Ya know, another option would be to get a pack of higher-quality plugins, such as Waves Native Power Pack...there are a couple plugin packs in "The Gear Bag" that might be of help.

Since: Mar 08, 2004

Mar 08, 2004 12:12 pm

I have a M Audio Delta 44 with four analog in's and four analog outs. What exactly is the gear bag and does that help me run post effects. I recently saw the M Audio firewire interface. Would it be worth looking into since my current Delta 44 is a serial?

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 08, 2004 09:54 pm

No the Delta 44 should be just fine. Going to the firewire will not benifit you much as they are still in their infancy. Stick with the stable card for now, not saying the firewire is unstable. Just it wont add anything for you.

Try dB's suggestion and pick out a couple of Pluggins that may work best for now.

Lastly, the Gear Bag is in the page bars on the left side. It contains links and info on gear some of our members use.

Since: Jan 26, 2004

Mar 08, 2004 11:34 pm

Native Waves is an awesome pack. Just visit the Gear Bag. You may wonder the prices might be high, but believe me and I speak on behalf of everyone on here; they are well worth it! Plus the cool thing is, native sells different packs for a variety of uses so it depends on what you need.

If you need help on compression etc just do a search for it on the forums and you'll get great reads :)

Since: Mar 08, 2004

Mar 09, 2004 02:37 pm

..ok great.
...I Will probably buy a USB version of the delta just for the sake of more inputs.

...does anyone know here have any ideas on how i can run post effects?? (aka efx rack/ compression)

I would like to do it so everything stays in sync.
Is this possible?

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Mar 09, 2004 06:36 pm

Oh yes, I guess I missed that in your first post.

Yes, with multiple in/out audio interface you can run a track or several out to an rack processor and back into CEP after processing. It will of course be recorded as a new track. Which is good in case the new track is not quite right.

I do that all the time as I have some rack gear that does things I simply cant do yet in software. But they are very strange pieces of gear, so I dont expect to see it duplicated in software any time soon.

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