at an absolute loss..

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Contributor Since: Apr 03, 2002

ok.. i was working on a track about 3 days ago.. i come back today to continue working on it. and now i have no audio output at all. nothing on my end has changed in the days between [havent been at the comp].

itll load all the apps and itll act like it is going to play, but it doesnt. and its not that i just cant hear it.. the programs dont move forward in the songs at all.

this is affecting everything audio: winamp, wavelab, acid pro, fruityloops, etc.

any ideas? this was really bad timing on my pc's part, considering that i have 5 days to complete a track for a compilation...

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:14 am

Weird...if it affects EVERYTHING, I would say there is a chance some component has failed, such as your sound card, or the slot on your MoBo. Move the card into another slot and see what happens...at least it's a place to start.

Very strange.

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:39 am

changed the pci slot.. detects instantly, re-installed the drivers for the card and everything went perfectly. so i dont think its a hardware issue. im thinking this is something driver related.. inside windows.

im really not wanting to re-install windows today. any other ideas db? =)

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:49 am

driver related? have you tried making your programs choose to use direct sound instead of ASIO or vise versa?

also, do you have another soudncard installed, or maybe just some SB clone laying around somewhere?

bummer..

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:50 am

Ya, odds are it is a hardware issue...sorta. It sounds to me like something may have sponaeously decided to move IRQs on ya or something. Very weird. Either that or that slot in the MoBo has a problem. Tho with either of those issues I would expect the system to just lock up. Just for yuks, I would put it back into the original slot and see if it happens again...if so, you may be closing in on MoBo failure time.

Also, as my constant bit of advice, go to the website and make sure you have the latest drivers and check their support for any possible known issues with your MoBo's chipset.

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:51 am

with the delta card, direct sound isnt even an option. =\

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 07:54 am

direct sound rather than ASIO? When you pry ASIO from my cold dead fingers!

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 08:06 am

it would at least rule out the drivers wouldn't it?

that's funny though, DS is an option in most of my audio apps, even with the Delta. maybe it's a Win98 thing

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 08:09 am

moved it back to the original slot and its still happening.. but its also still detecting fine. i checked the irqs on everything and nothing appears to be conflicting.

all drivers are up to date and all my audio software has been re-installed.

heres an example of what its doing:
i open winamp. choose any audio file. it loads, i hit play. it says it plays one second of audio [no sound or anything actually occurs] and then it stops.

not fully committed to this solution yet, but im backing everything up on cd for a horrific reformat/re-install. luckily all my audio is on another drive.. so its just software and system stuff thatll have to be reloaded.. but this will be un-fun however it works out.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 08:18 am

Quote:
it would at least rule out the drivers wouldn't it?


Not necessarily. Just because DS may work doe snot mean there isn't problems with the ASIO suport in the drivers, or maybe WDM support...just because one driver type works for a card does not mean they are all functional.

Lost for words with all to say.
Contributor
Since: Sep 12, 2003


Oct 23, 2003 09:06 am

Is the drivers that you use loading automatically through windows (otherwords, the OS has the drivers) or do you have a disc that you insert to install? This might seem weird, but I have had cases where the sound was distored in just one speaker or no sound at all like in your case. Sounds like to me that maybe the drivers that you use have gone crazy and have effect the system files that even when you reinstall the drivers, they work the same which is not working at all. This will sound stupid but something to try: Find the most latest drivers online and download them. Go to Device Manager and Uninstall the sound card. Restart the computer and reinstall with the new drivers.

This might now work at all but it's worth a shot. If this doesn't work, I suggest buying a soundcard or finding another one to see if a new one would work.

Dale

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 09:09 am

Oh, ya, which brings to mind something you should always do with M-Audio drivers, collapse, UNINSTALL the old driver, don't just write over them.

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 01:28 pm

i always uninstall the driver on anything before i re-install it. years of tech work taught me that =P

Member
Since: Jul 02, 2003


Oct 23, 2003 02:12 pm

I had that problem happen quite a while back and for me what it turned out to be was a hosed Windows Media Player (v 9). Simply reinstalling it didn't work. I had to install an earlier version and then install WMP 9 and everything worked after that.

Dan

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 02:15 pm

olddog, did the *exact* same thing happen, with all audio apps?

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2003 02:31 pm

interesting.. a little late now i suppose. thanks for the help on this. and olddog, jaime.. let me know if that fixed things.. im going to be a little irritated about the whole reformat/re-install if that worked..

but on the positive side, my system is now running much faster.

Member
Since: Jul 02, 2003


Oct 23, 2003 02:53 pm

Yep every audio app I had would go a second or so with no sound than stop. It was before I was recording, but Real Player, WinAmp, WMP, all of them did just like that.

Dan

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Oct 24, 2003 08:19 am

so collapse, you got it working now?

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 24, 2003 12:35 pm

sure did.. just trying to get all of my plugins back and functional.. the main software is taken care of.

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Oct 24, 2003 12:45 pm

sweet. so i take it you must have had all your audio data on a second harddrive? or did you back everything up the old fashioned way first?

strange how these thigns happen. i have a sidewinder game controller that i've tried to install three times and each time it caused windows to freka out and caused my system to conpletely forget about every other hardware driver on the whole system meaning it rebooted in safe mode in 600x800 16 color mode and NONE of my sound cards or internet or anything would work, forcing me to reinstall everything!? i think it was the video drivers or something that wouldn't go on properly causing me to have to use my restore disc that came with the computer. blah!

these days i'm terrified to try and install it again!

Contributor
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 24, 2003 01:32 pm

yeah.. all my audio is on a second drive. i couldnt imagine having to back all that up

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