More Cakewalk help Please!!!!

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Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
Member Since: Dec 10, 2002

When I record on Cakewalk I am getting a weird delay effect I'll hit a not there will be a pause then I'll hear it through the speakers on my Computer. I thought it might be my 4 track so I plugged a mic directly into the computer & got the same effect.
Does anyone have any Idea what I'm talkin' about? This computer is really getting on my nerves.
Thanks,

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 08:47 am

Yup, it's called "latency", generally happens from cheaper sound card, or choosing a low-performance driver type (such as MME). It the amount of time that the sound takes to get from the input to the output. Go to audio gear profile in Cakewalk and see what your effective latency is and let us know.

Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
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Since: Dec 10, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 08:52 am

100.0

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 08:55 am

Well, that would explain it. Most semi-pro cards such as M-Audio, Echo and about anything supporting ASIO can get down under 10.0 even down to 0.

You must be using a SoundBlaster, yes? if not, there is probably a better driver option to select in the audio setup.

Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
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Since: Dec 10, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:01 am

I'm not sure it is a Compaq labtop. How do I find out what Soundcard I have

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:06 am

Oh, if it's the stock sound chip in any laptop it's gonna be very low performance/high latency. Actually, I am surprised it's a "low" as 100ms. You need to get a USB or Firewire Sound Device to get any decent performance.

Something like these for example:

M-Audio Quattro service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

Edirol UA-3D service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

Edirol UA-5 service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

and there are many more...

Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
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Since: Dec 10, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:11 am

Is there anyway to get around this as a temporary fix. I am building a Dedicated Desktop in Dec. I just need it to hold out til then. Before when I had it set up I couldn't hear it until after I recorded it but it sounded fine. The 1st track I could hear but the second track (the one I was Recording) I couldn't hear. Until I played it back and it sounded Matched.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:13 am

No, not really, the recording will presumably be fine (well, as fine as that card can do), but the latency is the latency, you are kinda stuck. But it's only the monitoring that is late, shouldn't be the recording itself...still makes it tough to play along with tho.

You can play with your buffers and such, but if you get the latency down, you will probably start having stuttering and dropouts during recording and playback.

Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
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Since: Dec 10, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:15 am

Thanks dB it looks like one more reason to push up the date for the Desktop. What do you think of the M-audio 1010

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:18 am

I have the Audiophile and love it, Noize and a few others have the Delta44 and love it. Ther eare a couple people here that have the 1010 and I don't recall reading anything bad about it that I can recall. They all use the same drivers and they are very stable and very high-performance support ASIO, WDM and MME(yuk) I love my M-Audio and would always recommend them to others.

Help I'm stuck in Utah!!!!!!!!!
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Since: Dec 10, 2002


Sep 19, 2003 09:21 am

Thanks again. I am stuck I like the 44 but I keep askin' myself is that enough inputs to record drums?

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Since: Oct 09, 2002


Sep 20, 2003 06:07 pm

It's enough inputs to record drums if you also have an external mixer and don't mind mixing down some of the channels before they go onto the computer. That's what I do.

Input 1 = Snare
Input 2 = Bass Drum
Input 3 = Left overhead
Input 4 = Right overhead

Now, If you want to mic the toms too (You don't have to, but it will sound better if you have good mics), you are going to need a mixer, as I mentioned before. In that case you just use Inputs 3 and 4 kind of like a stereo track (except you would record it on the computer as 2 monos). Add the other mics in and pan them somewhere between the two overheads, as the overheads will get panned pretty much completely left and right in the multitracker. If you want to use more mics than that, it would make sense to get a larger soundcard. I've actually recorded entire practice sessions with the 44, though, and they actually came out quite nice.

MegaMan
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Since: Mar 05, 2003


Sep 21, 2003 01:27 pm

i too have the audiophile, its amazing.....

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