room miking and working with the stereo field?

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Member Since: Sep 24, 2002

hey guys i have just been recently working with some guys who are producing a cd for Target Stores for their Christmas cd. i got to sit in and lean a lot and even push a few buttons here and there... anway... i was speakng witht there technician about the room mics they were using which were two Sures 27s i think

and they had them.... the top one was upsidedown on a straight foward pattern to the choir... and the second was within a centameter... right side up with the side of the mike faceing to the front and it was set in a figure 8 pattern..... the tech was talking about opening up the spectrum... by taking the bottom mic and doubling it... and taking one side... and reversing it... and fix the phasing or something.... i cant remember what exactallyl i was supose to do.... and i was wondering if... any of u guys can tell me what im talking about and how to do it.... i read a forum long ago on this but i cant remember it now..... so if anyone can refresh me.... it would be wonderful..... thanks
jeremy

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Since: Sep 24, 2002


Sep 04, 2003 12:25 am

ps.. if any of u go in a target store over christmas and here the recording... then...the great sounding soprano in the choir is my girlfriend... and on the solos the lack of pops was made possible by MY Pop filter.. cause they didnt have one.... so i ran to my dorm room and got one... I thought it was cool.. you dont have to

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Since: Dec 30, 2002


Sep 04, 2003 03:50 am

The technique you are reffering to is called MS Stereo Mic'ing.

jues.

Member
Since: Sep 24, 2002


Sep 04, 2003 03:35 pm

yes but how excactly do i do it??

Bane of All Existence
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Since: Mar 27, 2003


Sep 04, 2003 04:36 pm

quick google search...this is one of the first results:
www.paia.com/msmicwrk.htm

Banned


Sep 05, 2003 12:59 am

get some tea and work on your mic placement. tea will calm you down when you realize how crappy you are at mic placement.. then go to work. you really dont need to be working in a stereo enviornment unless your sub mixing drums or doing big group or orchestrated session, things of that nature.... you have an aardvark q10 so you dont need to sub mix your drums and i doubt youre doing big groups or orchestras. you can pretty much cheat with your signals making them stereo sounds in the mixdown. to be honest with you man... you should only need one mic when you are reording. thats what brian wilson did on the pet sounds sessions. all the music was done in one big room as a live performance with a single mic. they used tons of tracks for the vocals and some different mics but it was always just one mic at a time... even if 5 people were singing. just... trust me on this one. you are not micing the room.. you are placing the mics in the room to capture sounds. so get to it.

Member
Since: Sep 24, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 06:32 pm

to be honest... i cant use just one mike at a time its a choir and yes it is a large ensamble... i do a lot of large group work... this question wasnt even about miking technique ... it was about ... trying to figure out what the order of steps i needed to take to get a better sound and bigger sound out of an 8 pattern mic. i just want to know how to do the trick that the guy i was helping was talking about.... and i cant rember all the steps and the order... thats all i want to know

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 09:11 pm

As Minkus already said above - it's all here:

www.paia.com/msmicwrk.htm

jues.

Member
Since: Sep 24, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 09:31 pm

ok thankx guys...

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