Godsmack

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Member Since: Jun 19, 2003

I think I'm going to have to by the new album by Godsmack. The song. I can't remember, was something about Lies or don't tell me lies, or something I can't remember but the lead was great.(the whole song was)
Being 44, (old) I've seen a move away from screaming leads and basic rythms to great rythms and what seemed like lead guitar players that didn't what to sound like they were from the 80's .(blazing crazy leads). I'd always hoped the new great drummers and old style shredders styles would hook up.
Maybe this finally happened for me.
OK, reply about what I'm missing, cuz I know it's cumin.

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Since: Feb 14, 2003


Jul 18, 2003 10:05 pm

its called "strait out of line"

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Jul 19, 2003 04:32 am

a lot of people may dissagree with this but i for one welcomed the change. Cutting out leads that (to me) that didn't really seem to fit ( just a bunch of finger tappin noise) , was a nice improvement , it gave the other members of the band some of the spot light (or just equalized the mix) . I'm not saying i hate leads , there are pleanty of great ones out there , like blues , and a lot of the rythm type leads . I'm not huge on godsmack but I think they have a nice blend of leads , not too many and not over powering .

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jul 19, 2003 05:57 am

*caution* possible elitism:

whenever i catch a slice of godsmack, i find the songs to be seriously lacking in ... well, anything that means anything. they strike me as annoyingly emptyheaded. that, and the name godsmack is a ripoff of an alice in chains song--a far better band IMHO. a band who used leads expertly, too. so is godsmack was trying to emulate a vision that another, better band once had? the guy kind of sounds like he's trying to be layne. plus there's the whole name thing. why do bands do this? whats up with creed being pearl jam and that tool knockoff band pretty much REPLACING tool? they're better at being tool than TOOL! *shakes head* these types of bands are everywhere. coming out of the walls. it was a very strange sensation at the age of 20 to realize that the age of 'real' rock had come to an end...or, worse, the implication that the rock i had enjoyed was also just mass market crap? nonsense! it can't be! but i can't escape it: my final impression of godsmack is of a cardboard band, a front with little behind it. one of the seeping slew that started pouring from the walls roundabout 1994/95. a band that picked an unfortunate name that will always invite ugly comparisons.

just my opinion, tho! (hey! at least we both like leads! a lot, even!?)

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Since: Jun 19, 2003


Jul 19, 2003 07:57 am

Geoff, I agree that the fingertappin' leads were getting old and I don't need them all that much.
But some of the newer bands were developing these great rythms and occassionally I would think, "Hey this would be a good place for a short burst" But for the most part the song would move along to the end.
Fortymile, I see what your'e saying too. I do like Alice in chains and have not listened that closely to Godsmack yet. It just caught my ear the other day on the radio.
So here's my next question. Why are most of the good singers going to the fluffy bands?
It seems to be in vogue now to have an angry white boy type for singing and singing (or I mean yelling) pissed off.

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Jul 19, 2003 10:09 am

grumpeedad, there is a lot of hype dealing with music , there always has and always will , who sold out and what's cool and what's not and so on and so forth . I'm a student and lover of music there are bands from all types of rock , jazz, blues ect that i personally like , and that i don't like . There are some pop acts that i dig because they are "catchy" or i just like the production of there album . I don't think rock is "dead" i think as things go on a change so does music . There are a lot of copy cats out there , I'll agree with that but I still see new acts that come out and I think "man that sounds cool " , and my oppinion doesn't change if i find out that they are on MTV or a big label .

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Jul 19, 2003 10:11 am

so ... if you like the tune "old man " :P.. by all means check it out .

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Jul 19, 2003 01:30 pm

Gonna get it on my way home from work today. I've been around music for a long time and someone has always been able to do something for me....And then turn around and disappoint me. Que sera,sera
Old man? I remember when you were just a baby how I would trudge through the snow (barefoot of course) just to buy a Bad Company 8-track.
Kidding, I'm old and lovin' it

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
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Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 19, 2003 01:52 pm

I would like to chime in here, if you fellows don't mind. You all make valid points. Geoff said, "Cutting out leads that (to me) that didn't really seem to fit"...is a good point. It kind of became apparent, that the numerous amount of rock bands in the late 80's to mid 90's had played out the blistering lead thing. Then the new styles started coming in; grunge almost seamed to be a tribute to anit-leads. And like I said, the blistering lead thing had been played out. But in the change I feel something was lost...flat out Musicianship. What I mean by that word is..the Art of playing. The skill of music. Artisanship has seemed, in many respects to take a back seat to hype, glits & glamour. I know thats nothing new..that it's an occuring theme through out musical history. But this go around seems, in some way's to be different. The mainstream rise of Rap, coupled with rock..and almost every style. Has seemed to turn out less skilled players to the music scene. For instance.. years ago, I used to teach a 15 year old kid the guitar.(who latter I formed a band with) Now he's no longer a kid but he just recently joined one of the biggest bands out today. But not to long ago he said to me, Quote: "These days you don't need to be talented to join a band." And I believe that's been the general attitude of alot of bands today. I see bands are starting to break ranks these days, concernig this attitude. That's cool. But I hope that the over all feeling of lethargy will come to some kind of balanced conclusion. Thanks

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jul 19, 2003 04:21 pm

one of the biggest bands today?

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Jul 19, 2003 06:40 pm

So I got the CD and gave it a listen. I liked a couple of songs. The rest just seems like what cd's have been doing since they were records (the 70's). 2 or 3 songs I like and the rest is dull.
What's up with that anyway? Am I alone? I've been listening to music for 25 years and it's not very often there's more than 3 songs that are cool.
The good news is that it impressed my 13 year old son. And his friends think he has a cool dad.
So... 2 good songs and I'm cool with the local 13yr old set. All for $15, not a bad deal.

Bane of All Existence
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Since: Mar 27, 2003


Jul 19, 2003 10:54 pm

i think the whole point is that you spent that $15. you were attracted by a song or two to buy the record, and you did. that's all that counts in terms of bottom line...$$$

there isn't a real draw to make those filler songs into good songs when there isn't any real gain aside from a feeling of satisfaction of creating good art. but it's not art anymore...each presentable song is like a commercial these days, geared towards selling plastic discs.

wrmach - the bands who are breaking ranks are pretty courageous.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jul 20, 2003 01:13 am

i know lots of albums that are great front to back. they don't occur often enough in the mainstream scenes, but they do from time to time. the rest of the time i just have to keep my ear to the streets, dig em out.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
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Jul 20, 2003 09:56 am

Yes, they are one of the biggest bands out today. I'm sorry..it seems I busted in on a private conversation.

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Jul 20, 2003 02:30 pm

i was just curious who, but i dont think you wanna say who.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
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Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 20, 2003 05:23 pm

I'm sorry fortymile. I thought your comment was a "read between the lines, were not interested" sort of thing. Seriously, I do apologize. No problem dude, I don't mind telling you the band..It's Limp Bizkit. I'm not really a fan of their's, but alot of people seem to dig them. I taught their New Guitar player(Mike Smith) for a few years. Then I started a band with him. Mike and I were like best friends. But I split from the band for alot of reason's. I could go into a big thing but that's the jist of it. He and I haven't spoken for along time. Again...sorry about the misunderstanding.

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Jul 20, 2003 06:22 pm

no, i was just asking. that's cool about your friend, i was just interested. how much did you teach him, just out of curiosity? maybe you dont want to talk about this. but if he really said you dont need to be talented to be in a band these days, i'd be interested to hear where you estimate his level of knowledge to be. i havent listened to LB at all, cause i dismissed them as 'not my thing' the first time i ever heard them. so i wouldnt know how original or complicated his playing is, nor would i have anything bad to say about him or his band. but i'm sure if nothing else, your friend plays tightly and cleanly, and that seems to go a long way toward being considered a 'pro.' extreme facility with the things you DO know. then there are people like me who are just plain sloppy and who use cheap equipment. DANG IT! i dunno what im saying. just fishing for more info from someone who taught a 'pro.'

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 20, 2003 07:36 pm

Quote:
Being 44, (old) I've seen a move away from screaming leads and basic rythms


heh, being 23, (young) I need screaming leads to let me vent my frustrations etc. I love at least 5 songs off the first self titled Godsmack.

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the name godsmack is a ripoff of an alice in chains song--a far better band IMHO


Surely one of the biggest heists of the 20th century. AIC was an amazing band and Layne Staley can't be easily replaced by some pop metal drop-D band. :O(

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i havent listened to LB at all, cause i dismissed them as 'not my thing' the first time i ever heard them


I'm still digging the first album "$3 Bill Y'allz" for it's raw intensity and the more conservative dose of Durst egotism.

And about that $15? I listen almost *strictly* to free underground music from the web these days. I welcome anyone to just search around the net at IUMA or slsk or even right here at HRC to find some quality stuff that rivals what you can find on MTV or the radio. Many artists freely offer their music to anyone who'll lend an ear.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jul 20, 2003 07:44 pm

but how do you know where to start, jamie?

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 20, 2003 09:42 pm

i have different musical interrests depending my mood. i can set out seeking a particualr style and things just usually happen. Like the other day I was floating around the soulseek chat rooms trying to strike up converstaion with anyone interrested in audio production, when I found a guy in the drum n bass room who's been into it for a few years and he's about to try and do it full time. The guy pointed me towards some of his own work and asked my opinion on EQ or something, and i decided he's way beyond my skills, but i listened to his music and the music of some bands he's promoting and it's all good stuff. These tracks makes thier into my WinAmp playlist, some stay some don't. Some get burned to CD to listen to in the car or to a friends house to turn them on to something new and "underground".

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Jul 20, 2003 11:34 pm

soulseek is a nice place.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
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Jul 21, 2003 11:50 am

Hey fortymile, I don't mind talking about the whole Mike/Bizkit thing. To begin with.. like I said, I never really cared for LB. Their really not my thing. But hey...to each their own. Anyway, you were talkig about Mike's guitar playing. Here's what it is..Mike is a good rhythm player..Period.....that's all! Not that anything is wrong with being just a rhythm player. Every band needs a good, solid rhythm guitarist. I mean, Hey... that's one reason why I formed the band with him. But if you read some of the hype on the LB web site..you'd think that Mike was God. Far from it. When I met Mike he really didn't know that much about playing. But I saw something in him; we quickly became close friends. Honest to God...we were together day and night. Lessons, then jammin'...Lessons, then jammin'...That's all we did for years. But I split the band and our friendship went sour. But Mike is a good, solid rhythm player...that's true. Now, His personality is another story!

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