Vocal mic

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Member Since: Jul 11, 2002

I am looking for a large diaphram shock mounted mic for vocals, but I'm on a tight budget. I reaaly need to find one for 200 or less. I have found the Apex 420 and the Behringer B-2 so far. Can anyone give me a comparison of the two and/or suggest any other mic that might fit my needs?

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 12, 2002 10:09 am

How about the Nady SCM900: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear no shockmount, but at that price you can buy one.

Or the Behringer B-1: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear with a shockmount.

there are a couple other options for you from reputable manufacturers.

Member
Since: Apr 19, 2002


Jul 12, 2002 10:46 am

About three months ago I asked the same question in this forum and I thank God and the guys that gave me advice.
Now I feel obligated to give you an advice based on my still enjoying experience.
Buy an AT 3035, is about 200 and for me is perfect (just what I was looking for) Clean, and with a rich sound. I've also heard good things about the Oktava and Studio Projects C series and now the new B series (cheaper than C's).
Of course, it all depends on your preferences, kind of voice and the use you're planning to give it.
Here's a link:
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 12, 2002 11:03 am

yup, there is a mic that LOTS of people seem to really dig! I was mentioning cheaper ones cuz it seemed that that is what he was looking for, but you are right, that 3035 is under 200, (by a dollar, which can get you 20 minutes by using 10-10-220 :-), so it is worthy of mention, thanks Sonico.

Member
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 12, 2002 11:19 am

if you have not ever used a large diaphragm condenser for vocals before. chances are that whatever you buy, you will be blown away and like it.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 13, 2002 02:02 am

Just my 2 cent's, and most of you know were I'm going with it.

Oktava MK319 :-)

It will give you warm fuzzy's all through the day and night.

Nuf Said!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 13, 2002 06:39 am

Oktava MK319: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

I didn't realize that was only $199 too...hmmmm

Member
Since: May 25, 2002


Jul 13, 2002 10:42 pm

hey guys ...i really hunger to get 1 condenser mic but my budget is even more tight that less than $100,n i still wonder the scm900 and the behringer B1 work well or not? for info i m still using a dynmic mic..shure sm57 and shure 14A...
i feel my vocal recording is not warm enough...
so can the 2 budgeted condenser mic work?

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 14, 2002 01:38 pm

The Berhinger B1 is a very good mic. It does have a very warm and full sound. It is well built and durable, as is all the Berhinger gear. So for a good starter mic, and as far as I'm concerned a good keeper for the long run. I will say buy oneand go for it.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 10, 2003 06:36 am

what do you guys think of AKG vocal mic's? anyone have any experience with those, or are the mic's mentioned above better that the simular priced AKG's, I'm also looking for a vocal mic for around $250, for RnB type vocals, (clean, rich sound i'm looking for) pro quality.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Feb 10, 2003 10:16 am

For a Pro Vocal sound, you can't beat the Rodes NT1 (how much can a man plug a mic ;) or the AKG C3000B provides a very clean, crisp sound.

However, if you are purchasing an expensive mic, you need to get hold of Decent pre-amps to do it justice.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 10, 2003 10:36 am

Thanks jues
, I was looking at the AKG C3000B but after reading this forum thaught i should re-think things due to the very low mention of AKG's range of microphones.

Can you recommend a Pre-amp that would do the trick?.

Thanks

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Feb 10, 2003 10:46 am

Joe Meek M3Q + AKG C3000B = lush vocals
but then...
Joe Meek M3Q + Rode NT-2 = lusher vocals

it's your call


other Pre-amps worth a shout are those made by Focusrite - my friend has a the Voice Master, very nice...

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 10, 2003 11:12 am

thanks again,

I've just had a look did you mean the Joe Meek MQ3?, looks perfect, it has a compressor and EQ, i think I'll take your advice and try it out, my original plan was to get a Alesis compressor and a mini mixing console, so with the MQ3 i wout need to get a compressor?.

Thanks a whole lot.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 10, 2003 11:24 am

also I've just looked at the Rode's mic you recommended did which one did you mean the NT1-A Priced at $199 or the NT1000? priced at $299

Thanks again

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
Member
Since: Oct 09, 2002


Feb 10, 2003 11:53 am

Personally, I think that if your mic is sensitive enough to begin with, and doesn't need a lot of volume boost, then you don't have to worry a lot about pre-amps. All a pre-amp does is boost the signal, so as long as it doesn't add noise and you don't need to really crank it, any decent mixer pre will do. I guess I could be wrong though...

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002


Feb 10, 2003 03:16 pm

Jues,

Do you "condition" the NT1 at all for vocals? I have a couple and use my 319 for vocals. I would like to A / B the two with any conditioning you utilize.

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Feb 10, 2003 06:15 pm

Porpoise, you are kinda right, a Pre-Amp does litterally just amplify the signal - but then again, if you think about it, this is THE most crutial stage, because if the Original Signal is not amplified cleanly and without colourisation, then it will not sound the same anymore... Also the MQ3 (yep, thats the one I meant) does have an EQ and compressor - as well as having 2 seperate outputs, which allows for REAL TIME monitoring of the vocals without any delay - a real must have IMHO.

Rahxx - I was originally reffering to the NT-1 (which is the Mic I have) - the NT-1A is pretty much identical except it is gold (nice touch). The NT1000 is a bit more pricey but sounds even nicer - not to mention the NT-2 (which is SHWEEEEEEEET!) ahem.

Walt - hmmm "Conditioning" - what are you reffering to - EQ treatments? Well I sometimes find the NT-1 just a little too bright so I sometimes apply a small, very open Q EQ cut around 2.8Khz (usually only by about 1dB) and that sorts it out - however, most of the time I find it isn't a problem.

Oh and plenty of compression ;)

jues.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 20, 2003 10:26 pm

hey jues,

Would you recommend the Rode NTK over the NT-2?

would be much appreciated.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002


Feb 20, 2003 10:36 pm

Yup Jues, My findings as well. Same freq, same cut. Just checking to see what you thought. Thanks!

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Feb 21, 2003 12:57 pm

The NT-2 is better, but if you are on a slightly tighter budget then the NTK is just as good (there's not an awful lot between them to be honest.)

jues.

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Feb 21, 2003 02:34 pm

i think you have things around the other way price-wise, the NT2 is priced at $399.99 and the NTK is priced at $499.99 at musiciansfriend.com, so judging by the price do you think the NTK would be slightly better.

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Feb 21, 2003 07:06 pm

Hehhe, that's funny.

Over here, the NTK is about 60 cheaper than the NT-2. The NT-K "colours" the sound slightly to give it a more "tube" feel - the NT-2 is "purer" - but then it's all about personal preference - to be honest, there's probably not an awful lot between then.

jues.

Member
Since: May 15, 2003


May 15, 2003 04:59 am

hi Jues I've taken your advice and got a Rode NT2 and the JOEMEEK MQ3, can you give me any tips on what settings to use for vocals on the MQ3, I read that you cut the highs slightly can you set me in the right direction with what I should set things to.

or if anyone has any helpful hints I'd be most appreciative.

Thanks

Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


May 15, 2003 07:15 am

Track her flat mate, that's my best piece of advice for you.

Oh, in regards to earlier in the thread, please excuse me, you were right, I got the NTK confusted with the NT-1000 (doh!)

jues.

Cone Poker
Member
Since: Apr 07, 2002


May 15, 2003 03:42 pm

Rahx- just remember, you can always go back later and compress more if you need to using software, but you can't take out the compression using software, which is why we all recomend outboard compression of some type.

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