Jun 22, 2003 03:00 pm Yes!
FYI - New M Audio Delta Drivers
Posted on Jun 22, 2003 12:56 pm
dbmasters
Administrator Since: Apr 03, 2002
The long time 5.10.00.29 betas are now an official release. The link to download was broken when I visited, but I am sure they will fix it soon.
m-audio.com/support/driversearch.php
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Jun 23, 2003 08:22 am not for the Delta 44? I'm only showing version 4.something
Jun 23, 2003 11:05 am It's up there, but the link is still broken. Slow folks over there...
Jun 23, 2003 02:06 pm slow? I take it you've emailed 'em in the past over a tech support issue??
Jun 23, 2003 02:26 pm oh I see now, not available for Win98se, I'll have to wait until it's an official release
Jun 23, 2003 02:32 pm Yeah, Jamie, I have e-mailed them about tech support issues before with little if no success...
Then again, I find good tech support anywhere to be quite an elusive thing. I don't see what is so hard about hiring a few able, educated people to answer a few questions. I mean, I wouldn't mind a job like that for the summer or something :-)
Jun 23, 2003 02:37 pm hmmmm, 29 IS an official release for XP.
Windows 9x is really quickly on their way out for any drivers support with it's lack of WDM and other underlying code issues with the 9x kernel.
Jun 23, 2003 02:37 pm Oh my goodness... CAN IT BE???? It's actually working!
Jun 23, 2003 02:42 pm Agreed, tech support anywhere is usually a joke. I guess those able-minded pros that could actually answer your questions are a little too qualified for a sitting-on-the-phone $9/hr job huh? They're out there making the big $ in real IT jobs because they can't support a family on McDonald's wages.
Then again there's my cable tv's internet provider, they're always real helpful. Yesterday my cable internet was out for a few hours. I called up because I thought it was something on my end, and they answered and was like "Antietam?", I said "yeah", he said "the whole backbones's out, not sure why or how long...". I said "okay, thanks", "bye".
I'm sure that helped his average call handle time considerably.
Jun 23, 2003 03:30 pm Hahaha!
I just got the drivers working. I like the new control panel in all its XP glory :-) It's much cleaner now, and you can finaly tell how close to the center those little pan sliders are. There's also a phase switching option for each input which is handy. There's still a ton of I/O's listed everywhere, but I think I finally figured out why. You can set one set to your recording program and the other set to your other general computer sound needs. This way you can have your CD player app and Recording app going at the same time. Pretty nifty.
Jun 23, 2003 04:45 pm phase switching!? nice. and yeah, having to manually tap the arrow keys to center my pan has always been a pain in the neck. can't wait until it goes official and it works in Win98se. unless i get no support :OP
Jun 25, 2003 10:04 pm Help, I've been spoiled by install wizards!
I downloaded it and it asked me to extract it to my "A". I just stuck it on my desktop for the time being. How do I install it, I didn't see any setup files. It just stuck about 10 folders all over my desktop when I extracted them.
Jun 25, 2003 10:06 pm uninstall, or remove your existing drivers viz the device manager, or the add/remove software window (if the drivers show up in there) then reboot the PC, it will then ask you for the files to reinstall them, then point them to the A drive.
Jun 26, 2003 01:26 pm For me, the files wouldn't actually fit on a floppy disk! I just put them on a separate folder on my C drive and pointed the wizard to them. I'll also note that the first time I did it the drivers didn't work, so I had to reinstall them. Worked great after that.
Jun 26, 2003 03:49 pm Hahaha... Follow the ways of the porpoise...
Jul 24, 2003 10:42 pm Man you guys could save some headache if you read their release notes. You gotta use thier uninstaller to remove the old drivers before you install the new ones. This method makes for less rebooting and stuff, and a lot less gliches down the road. I have been using their uninstall patch before every upgrade and never had one issue or bad thing happen.
Jul 24, 2003 10:47 pm OK, my bad. I dont see it up there anymore. Maybe they arent using it now. But Ill believe it when I install the new drivers without a hitch.
Jul 25, 2003 02:24 pm Yeah, the download comes with the uninstaller. That's how I did it. I'm having a problem now, though. Every time I reboot my computer, the drivers stop working and I have to re-install them. Any idea what's going on?
Jul 27, 2003 01:45 am may i ask...
what is this and what...is it? does this apply to the audiophile 2496? if i remember right db, thats what you use, and so do i.
Jul 27, 2003 02:30 pm No, they're just for Delta cards, I think. Although the Audiophile ones might be new too. Go check if you're curious.
Jul 27, 2003 03:23 pm I think the Audiophile is part of the Delta series. That's the interface dB's using, and he's the one who posted this thread to start.
Jul 27, 2003 03:49 pm The Audiophile IS a Delta card.
That is not saying that all the Delta drivers are updated at the same time, but many in the series use the same driver package. The installer just looks at what card is in the system and acts accordingly. Or, once installed the driver knows which card it sees and loads the appropriate software.
Jul 27, 2003 06:09 pm I personally think they should rename it to the Delta22, I hate reffereing to it as the Audiophile 2496 - urgh, so longwinded :D
jues.
Jul 27, 2003 10:05 pm Whoops, that's news to me... You would think it would have "Delta" somewhere in the name if it was in the series, but I guess not. Sorry about the bad information.
...I feel like such a liar...
Jul 28, 2003 04:39 pm ok, i'm sorry but...
is this something i should download? i'm ashamed to say i've never downloaded updates for any hardware that i own. i just don't want to mess anything up. basically, why do i need this?
Jul 28, 2003 04:41 pm yes, you should always run the most current version of hardware drivers - this also goes for your graphics card, motherboard, bios, operating system - just about everything in your machine.
They reason they bring out new drivers is because they jsut made it beter :D
jues
Jul 28, 2003 05:09 pm woah. i've never downloaded new versions of drivers for any of that other stuff. jeez. my music computer isnt even connected to the web. i heard my XP has a glaring security hole! i will download the soundcard drivers. but i'm hoping that other stuff can wait.
Jul 28, 2003 05:39 pm Quote:
i heard my XP has a glaring security hole!
What glaring security hole? EVERY computer on the interent has security issues, it's a matter of how you manage your PC.
Don't let all the doomdayers scare you that somebody can jump out of your PC and mug you while on the internet. Security is basic common sense, XP has no bigger security holes (actually substantially less) than any other operating system. disable remote desktop, automatic updating and a couple other simple things then download some like ZoneAlarm firewall (which is free and you are pretty safe.
Some people just like to do two things:
1- Keep you scared of the internet so they can sell you products to protect your vulnerable self.
2- Make you think Microsoft is the absolute evilest, least secure, most unstable OS on the planet, which at one time they deserved a lot of it, but they have come A LONG way in the last couple of years with security and stability.
Jul 28, 2003 05:59 pm well all i meant was that last week i heard on the radio that xp has a security hole and i should download the update. but my xp is not an online machine. i found myself hoping that future updates--in the future i hope to have xp connected to the net--would maintain this older fix. i wasn't able to tell if that would be true or not, though.
generally i am not afraid for my security on the net. i just didnt want to miss a crucial update.
Jul 28, 2003 06:20 pm Well, for one thing, Windows machines have security patches as exploits are found, that always happens. What's funny is (funny "haha" not funny "strange" :-D) is that this same exploit/patch/exploit/patch process also goes on under Linux, Unix, Oracle database servers, Web servers such as WebSphere, IIS, Apache (Apache had a couple wicked comprimises in the last year or so) scripting engines and everything else involved with PC's.
The reason you don't hear about those is that 95% of the people at home don't have, know, or care about them, only professionals in the field such as myself, blueninjastar, TheRealWaldo (who is an avid MS hater :-D) and others know about these because we get the news from the vendor or via updates performed from their updating apps.
Windows is what most people have, so that is what the news will report. And no matter what the patch is, they will say something like "if this exploit is found it will allow the attacker to take control of your PC" or similar verbage. Well, of course, that is WHAT a hack is! But when they say it like that it gets people into "fear mode".
I set up a Linux RedHat 8 box a few months back and I would get FAR more updated per update session for that OS than I ever have for XP yet.
Do yourself some favors:
- run an antivirus
- run a firewall
- keep your OS and drivers updated witht hr latest patches and fixes
- don't install stupid stuff like "free scratch cards", automatic "coupon retrieval" apps, the "weather bug" and silly crap like that
And you will be in good shape. Go forth and surf.
Jul 28, 2003 06:55 pm [quote] don't install stupid stuff like "free scratch cards", automatic "coupon retrieval" apps, the "weather bug" and silly crap like that
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wasnt walt talking about the weather bug the other day? he seemed well impressed with it...
Jul 28, 2003 08:06 pm yes he was, and I laughed almost as hard as jues just did...the weather bug is an unnecessary, very impect piece of "software". If you wanna know the weather, look out the damn window.
:-P
Jul 29, 2003 12:12 am hahaha..
i had weatherbug installed once. some of us are weather fans.
i install freeware ALL the time, db. i have downloaded so many weird, wacko programs that i couldnt even list them. most have been removed, but i always scout around. of course most of them dont go on my music computer, but on my normal one. you're saying this is bad. i used to not understnd why, but the other day something bad happened.
i think scandisk found an error. i must have had to shut off the pc by killing power...sometimes it freezes up and theres no other way...not even ctrl alt delete will do it. i've heard this is bad, but honestly, ive done it a billion times when the computer is stubbornly stuck (this computer is 4 years old) and ive never had a problem. but scandisk found an error, first time ever. when the computer was booted up again, everything was different. i had two 'file not found' error messages--which my uncle informs me are caused by leftover instructions in the registry from old programs that i may have DELETED rather than uninstalled the right way... i redownloaded the progs, reinstalled them, and the error messages stopped. also the ethernet card was insisting it didn't have a driver, but it worked fine. then that message stopped on its own. some other programs no longer worked. all my user settings were changed. my uncle told me that they had reverted to an earlier stored configuration. now it seems that when i make new settings, sometimes they don't automatically save. sometimes they do, though. honestly, it is like my computer has had a stroke. there are all kinds of weird ghost effects...and yet generally, it works. you may now call attention to my stupidity. (or give helpful advice, if it suits you ;)
Jul 29, 2003 03:44 am hey, noize is bigging it up now!
Quote:
www.weatherbug.com/ Its the latest and greatest
maybe it is good after all...
Jul 29, 2003 05:49 am I've been a tech far to long, the weather bug is the devil. Trust me.
forty, you say you have never had problems, but yet in the saem breath you say your computer freezes up occassionally for no reason....hmmmmm....
I am not saying all freeware blows, far from it. But there are some that are poorly programmed that I have personally seen make trouble. Will it make trouble on ALL PC's, no probably not. But do you wanna take the chance?
Ask yourself one question....do you feel lucky, punk?
Jul 29, 2003 06:18 am forty didn't say he never had problems. i didn't read that anywhere. different thread?
Jul 29, 2003 06:51 am that's true enuf I read "i used to not understnd why" to mean "I never had problems until..." so that was my bad in assuming I guess...
Jul 29, 2003 01:30 pm db, how can i make sure my new settings save? so that if scandisk ever finds another error and the computer decides to revert back to former settings, it will revert back to my new configuration?
Jul 29, 2003 01:35 pm after you make any of these changes, reboot your PC, create a save point (I forget exactly where, but it's in admin tools somewhere) and then if it has to revert it will revert to that point.
<disclaimer>
I personally never enable that "rollback config" garbage, so the above advice might be erroneous.
Jul 31, 2003 05:48 pm www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/int...tack/index.html
what do you guys make of this? this makes me think i should download the patch. even though thats sort of a hassle.
Jul 31, 2003 06:53 pm Well, it's never a bad thing to stay current with patches and stuff, but that warning sounds like every other one "the attacker can take total control of your computer" no ****.
Buffer Overflows are one of the most common forms of attack and often times the patches you see for Windows often involve fixing new BO exploits.
SHould you get it? Yes. Let me ask you this, are you online 24 hours a day or just dialup...if just dialup, I wouldn't lose sleep over it, if you are on 24/7 DSL and have no firewall, well, yes go get it. AND get a firewall.
Jul 31, 2003 08:59 pm no, my music computer is the computer with xp, and it's NEVER online. i've had people tell me 'what are you doing, man, you're gonna miss all the updates...' but that's the way it goes--that computer wont be connected to the net until i move out, and maybe not even then. downloading patches, even downloading and transferring them to my music computer is not a 'huge' deal...but what im confused about is whether patch fixes are cumulative. like, can i get this patch automatically 2 years from now just by downloading the 'latest' windows update in dec. 2005 or something? or MUST i take it now if i want it, or else risk having to wade through some huge library of historical releases? because i definitely dont want to dig, in the future.
sometimes i really hate machines. we serve them-- it grows more and more obvious every day!
Jul 31, 2003 09:09 pm to hell with updates. my OS is more than 5 years old! :OD
Jul 31, 2003 09:18 pm If it's just security fixes, and it's never online, then don't worry about it. Stability fixes and such you would want though.
Windows 98 without updates, Jamie? Yikes, Windows 98 isn't that good WITH the updates...even worse without. :-P
Aug 01, 2003 01:39 am haha right. but...
it will be online, at some point in the future.
i am assuming that the security fixes are not cumulative. i am assuming that by passing this up i am passing it up for good.
Aug 01, 2003 04:13 am that's something i've always wondered.. if they're fixed are cumulative or not.
Aug 01, 2003 05:09 am With Service Packs they are cumulative.
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