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Posted on Jul 03, 2002 09:48 am
brock
Member Since: Jun 28, 2002
dam i post more questions than anyone on here! well this might posibly be the stupidist one. i think its obvious, but my friend (my drummer) while we were recording one day brought over a "SHURE 515sd unidyne b?" and i pluged it into my PA but it made no sound so we figured it was broken so he let me keep it. is this a good mic? schould i get it fixed if its broken? or do these mics not work with a PA? i know this question is extremly stupid but its worth a chance:)
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Jul 03, 2002 10:03 am I am not sure if that mic is a condensor mic or not, if it is, then it needs "phanton power" to operate, phantom power is generally supplied by the mixer console, if it has the ability to. If not you need to buy a phantom power unit to use it.
A lot of people here used to post a lot of questions, now they answer them, I am sure you will be in the answering group after you learn a lot of this stuff...I say that in hopes that you are like many regulars here and once this scommunity helps you, you stick around and help the next generation of newbies :-)
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 10:11 am yeah i'll stick around this site kicks ***! it has everything you kneed to know..and if i have a question i can just ask you guys. you guys rock....i started learning about recording in 8th grade. i'm in 10th now, so i don't know much. thanks for all your help. ohh and about the mic it says "dynamic dual" on the side. and then it has a Z with a - threw it
Jul 03, 2002 10:24 am Glad to hear it! Glad you like the site, we work hard on it :-)
I checked it out online and it does not need phantom power, so you may have a bad mic there...the specs look good, but yours may be broken...bummer
What model mixer do you use that you are plugging it into?
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 10:31 am Peavy PA-900 Mixer/Amplifier. Its really old.
yeah thats a bummer the mic is broken. i just rememberd that mic and thought "maby its not broken!" but oh well :(
Jul 03, 2002 10:34 am well, I didn't say that it IS, I said it might be, take it to a music store and plug it into a mixer there, try different channels on your board, maybe you have a bad channel, maybe a bad cable, ya never know.
Cables are a lot easier and cheaper to fix, just get a new one, or make a new one...and they are at fault a surpising amount of the time.
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 10:36 am no i've tryed everything. its definitly broken if it can be used with my mixer
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 10:38 am have you herd about the mixer i have? do you think i schould get a new one? it works perfectly but would my sound be better if i got a newer mixer?
Jul 03, 2002 10:41 am sound better? maybe, Peavey doesn't have the greatest preamp in the world in their older models, but more importantly than that, the mixer you have is meant for PA use, not recording use. Mixer for studio use typically have a few more routing options and stuff like that...
For a great mixer at a good price look into Behringer Eurodesks...they rock, many of us here have them and they are a very good price. I have added links to a few sizes below.
16 channel 4 bus: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
8 channel 2 bus (I have this one): service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
6 channel 2 bus: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
[size=1](if you ever decide to buy and the Musician's Friend price is right, please do so through links on the website, as we get commission to help pay for the costs of running this site)[/size]
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 11:08 am how much better would a mixer thats ment for recording be?
Jul 03, 2002 11:09 am a lot...when you get further in to recording you wil discover ways you want to route your signals out of and back into the mixer so you can use some effect, or you want these tracks to go out one way and those tracks to go out another and then meet back up again, etc, etc, etc, but some of these things are things that a PA board just isn't built for.
I used a PA board for my first year or so because I had to for money reasons, when I finally got rid of it and got a recording boards some thing got much easier...
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 11:13 am besides routing would the sound be better?
Jul 03, 2002 11:16 am well, now that depends on the board you choose, ANY of the above mentioned Behringers would sound better than the ol' Peavey, better preamps, more transparent signal paths...however, the ol' Peavey would probably sound better than if you go get a "recording mixer" at Radio Shack ;-)
It all depends on the unit you are buying.
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 11:27 am what is a aux bus? i've been trying to figure this out forever
brockMember
Since: Jun 28, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 11:28 am is it when you have an effect and you can rout channels into it?
Jul 03, 2002 12:03 pm it is an "auxiliary in and out" and yes, you can send all of a channel, or any amount you want to the "aux bus" send it through an effect or series of effects and then bring it back to the board to go out to the speakers.
the recording tips section has an article called "Anatomy of a Mixer" that will explain that stuff, I orignally wrote the article a long time ago for a guy who used to ask a lot of questions, now he is recording bands for money and has really become a pro...you might know him, he goes by "stupe", an old friend of the community going back probably 3 or 4 years. So you see, asking all these questions can really help :-)
Right, stupe?!?! ;-)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 03, 2002 10:22 pm I will only add one more note.
You asked if the mixer will give you better sound then the Peavey. The answer is yes. You can start with one of the smaller desk's and work your way up. Or if you save up the cash, pick up one that will hold you for a few year's. I use 3 of the Behringer desk's and I have for year's. I have not had one lick of trouble.
You will hear a lot of people gripe that they are Mackie knock off's, and I will tell you they are truly not. The look's may be similar, but that is the extent of it. The gut's are what count's, and they have quality throughout. I use a lot of their gear and will continue to do so for year's to come.
MSHARCMember
Since: Apr 05, 2002
Jul 04, 2002 03:14 am I had never used to the AUX portion of an old compact mixer that I have, but I was looking at this I realized that I am not sure how to use it. I looked at the "Anatomy of a mixer," which incidentally when you use the search, it brought up the article, I clicked on it and it took me back to the main page. Not sure if that is what is was supposed to do, so I thought I would make you aware dB. Anyways, could you describe how ro when you use this? I have an efx send/retn, but not sure if the aux acts the same way or if there is something special about it. In the article it said that it doesn't hit the signal path until the master section. Doesn't the efx work the same way? When I have used my reverb unit, the signal is designated by the efx knob on each channel, then comes back in the rtn. Does the AUX send all the channels to it to be processed, like lets say to go to a compressor and therefore its "last in line" in the chain? Just curious, I got confused. Thanks.
Jul 04, 2002 05:37 am Ooops, that part of the search is fixed, that was a legacy code that I forgot to update when I updated something else. The serach has some other problems as well, which Ido have to geton one of these days.
Yes the aux and efx loops are the same thing, just different names.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 04, 2002 11:18 pm The differance in your mixer may be that one is post-fader, which means its level is controled along with the fader. The other is pre-fader, level of the send is not controled along with the fader, it is constant and controled only by the Aux. knob itself.
