Actual guitar sound vs recorded guitar sound
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Posted on Dec 24, 2011 09:39 pm
stratwizard
Member Since: Nov 19, 2008
Hi All,
Probably this is a problem that most people have but I haven't been able to find a satisfying answer yet so I decided to ask the forum.
Is it possible to capture the same sound you hear from the amplifier in your recorded track??? My setup sounds increadible while I am playing but the recorded track doesn't sound anything like the tone I dial in.
I have tried a lot of different mic positions but the end result is always the same. The recorded track has everything that defines a bad guitar sound; very weak trebbly metallic sound that feels like it was recorded with a bad phone camera at a very crappy concert.
I was trying to aim for that classic bluesy rock sound (guns n roses, aerosmith etc). The unrecorded guitar sounds perfect to my ears; warm crunchy and a lot of body.
My entire signal chain is; Gibson Traditional Plus (Classic 57 pickup) ---> Marshall JCM 800 ---> Carvin cab with Celestion Vintage 30 ---> Shure SM 57 ---> Focusrite twintrak preamp - Focusrite Saffire pro 40 ---> PC (Cubase LE)
What is the best mic(s) and position for those mic(s) for you in order get that warm crunchy sound that you naturally hear coming out of a marshall + gibson combination????
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Dec 24, 2011 10:36 pm Well, it all comes down to mic position. What a lot of people do too if you want your tone to be nice and warm and have that high end crunch is they have multiple mics and blend the 2 until they get a tone they like.
You could also record straight from your amp into cubase and run it through an IR of an amp you like. There's tons of free loaders and IRs to choose from. That's usually the easiest.
Dec 25, 2011 11:07 am how can you record straight into cubase from the amp??? and what is an IR???
Dec 29, 2011 02:28 am Intead of amp going to cab, plug it into your interface. And IR stands for impulse response. I only know a little about how they work, I just know how to use them.
When you record straight out of your amp it'll sound really crappy and shrill. An IR will basically run your direct amp signal through a virtual cab.
keFIR is a good loader:
dl.dropbox.com/u/3202762/keFIR_v1.dll
And just save these responses to an easily accessible folder and browse them from keFIR in your daw.
relivethefuture.com/music...cksImpulses.rar
If youre still confused, google it or youtube it. A lot of people prefer it to micing up a real cab becuase its a lot easier and its essentially the same thing.
Dec 29, 2011 11:05 am Does the guitar sound ideal *IN THE ROOM* or does it sound ideal a few inches from the grille?
Put your ear where the mic is going to be. A lot of people tend to make their guitar sound like the guitar in a mixed track coming through a stereo speaker -- It didn't sound like that before it was recorded -- It sounds like that coming through a stereo speaker.
Dec 29, 2011 11:25 am Haha honestly I just use impulses because I've never gotten a good tone from a miced amp and I'm lazy. But I do theoretically know how to mic an amp, and Massive is right. A mic isn't gonna hear what you're hearing a few feet away and above the amp. It's gonna hear a few inches from the speaker. I'd maybe suggest sitting down and propping your amp against something so its aiming right at you and dialing in a tone that way. You could also try a pair of really good noise cancelling headphones and monitor the track in real time through cubase, then move the mic around until you get a good tone. Here's a video that comes to mind:
Dec 30, 2011 01:17 am So....Much.....Reading!
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Jan 04, 2012 09:24 pm alot to do with mic quality too i thought.
the room is everything. you brain has the abilty to almost disregard any room noise and really concerntrate on just the amp so really its your ears not giving you a true representtion of the sound in a shitty room i reckon.
but as soon as you run it thru a unit its gonna instantly change it anyway.
one thing ive noticed with metal gits is this.
when you layer it makes everything more....by this i mean if your bass or distortion is normal to a little too overdriven, by the time you do 4 tracks its just ridiculous. its builds up.
