My good old ipod 2nd Gen....it's official.
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Posted on Oct 24, 2011 02:28 am
J-bot
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Member Since: Dec 04, 2007
Damn thing's definitely obsolete now that the newer ios updates don't support the old thing. What's more, trying to force-update my old iPod will void the warranty on it. :P
Ah well, there's a good chance I'll be getting a nice Android tablet for xmas anyway. I'll probably still keep my iPod around for some things/apps that still work on it, but even some of the not-as-new apps I was using had some updates, and only work with ios 4.3 or later. :P Which I can't update to. Meh.
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Oct 24, 2011 08:43 am I admire any techie that uses things until it can absolutely no longer be used...sounds like that is what you did...too many people think you need to spend your money and upgrade just because a new version came out...not even looking at whether or not one needs whatever comes with the new upgrade.
Ya done well, man! Ya got your time out of it, it's served it's tour of duty well.
Of course, this post is from a guy that still doesn't have a smart phone, tablet of any sort or even a portable mp3 player at all...
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Oct 25, 2011 12:27 am the warranty is still valid?
J-botByte-MixerMember
Since: Dec 04, 2007
Oct 25, 2011 02:48 pm Okay, not it's not under warranty (I've had it for a couple years now) but I wouldn't want to try to force the update on it anyway in case it gets ballsed up heh.
And yeah, I tend to get something and use it until it's not useful anymore. Hell, I was using XP until just this last January. And my old 1.8Ghz AMD single core w/2GB RAM until early 2009.
But yeah, I tend not to upgrade unless I have to. As long as still something is running smoothly without issue, I'll keep using it. =]
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Nov 10, 2011 12:12 pm Man JBot, I love my android but got an ipad2 for my bday. If music creation on your tablet holds any sway better head for apple land. The android audio.sdk is just not geared for it and every program I've tried falls out of sync within seconds. Garageband+Nanostudio is heaven for the mobile musician imo.
J-botByte-MixerMember
Since: Dec 04, 2007
Nov 10, 2011 07:40 pm Yeah, no worries man, I'm well aware of the fact that Android can't do low-latency realtime audio work yet. The issue is that the ALSA sound drivers have the capability, but it's not exposed to apps through the NDK yet.
Maybe by Android 5 or 6, it will have caught up, but since Music creation on tablets is a bit of a niche market, Google isn't exactly rushing to address the issue. Android 4, -may- have a fix, but developers won't know until they get the new development kits. So, it may be Android 5 or even 6 before we have nice juicy low-latency goodness. I know several big companies (IK Multimedia and the like) really want a low-latency fix, so they can push some of their midi/audio interface hardware ideas to the Android devices.
Anyway, I mostly use the tablet-like devices to check up on my analytics, do little free game apps, browse, and possibly some light sequencing or sketching ideas out in a sequencer/pattern editor (like Caustic, which looks pretty good, and has received some nice reviews) Oh, and the big reason I'm going with Android, is that I just don't like or rather am getting tired of Apple's proprietary stuff, and I like that Android is based off of the linux kernel.
That said, I've heard really good things about Caustic on the Android. market.android.com/detail...oftware.caustic despite the realtime problems, the app seems very capable as a sequencer/pattern editor/groove maker kinda thing, which is what I like to mess around with on tablets. :)
From what I've read and understand, sequencing/pattern/loop editing/groove making and playback is doable. But realtime/low-latency synchronized recording/playback is where it falls flat. Opening the NDK up to access the ALSA realtime capabilities could possibly solve the issue, but again, Google's kinda sitting on their hands since low-latency audio is considered niche.
I'm so used to physical keyboards, that I don't think I'd use a tablet to play a synth or other instrument in realtime, I'd just use my DAW. But it can be fun to mess around with a sequencer or pattern editor to sketch out ideas, create some grooves or loops via sequencing/patterns and play em back.
But like I said, for the most part, I'm going to be using the tablet for other things besides music creation. :) And I'm not ditching my old iPod touch 2G just yet, since there's still apps that work fine on it. (and again, I don't use it for music either, since it's a small device)
And besides, my wife let slip that her parents have already acquired and wrapped the presents (mine included) lol.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Nov 14, 2011 01:34 pm That's cool, I think that niche market is going to grow incredibly fast personally. I love Android for the all the reasons you stated and hate apple for the stated reasons as well. I have tried Caustic and hated it after using nanstudio but it does keep time for the most part.
As stated though, you won't use it for music and for every other usage I prefer android and think it shines. My buddy has the 10.1 galaxy tab and loves it.
J-botByte-MixerMember
Since: Dec 04, 2007
Nov 14, 2011 02:14 pm Yeah, I'm thinking, or rather hoping, that they got me one of the acer iconias. I like that the Iconia has a full-size USB port. :D But we'll see. ^_^
My wife and I bought their present and had it shipped already. (they mentioned needing a new DVD player, and there was a Phillips on sale at best buy)
