Help with M-Audio + Behringer problem!

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Marijuana Czar
Member Since: Oct 01, 2009

Hey guys I havn't been on for a while due to illness, but I'm back and wanting to record some music.

Now in the last week my ,Behringer 1204fx mixer / uca usb connecter, was making my monitors crackle in a weird way. any time a sound was made on my computer it crackled and it was like an echoing crackle.
-So anyway I bought an M-Audio fast track USB to get by with, after connecting that up to my PC... no crackles.. meaning that either my behringer mixer is ****** or my uca 200usb is ******... how id test that id like to know.

BUT here's my question-in-a-sentance for now:
I want to be able to use effects pedals with my microphones and the M audio fast track USB.. problem is.. idk how.

I was thinking that I could route them through the Behringer mixer's aux sends or something like that, and then send em back into the m audio box but it all got messy in my head and i started thinking that the microphone would be double preamped from both the devices and yeah asfjhjfhdskjgh;sghsjdkg.

So lost, would love some help. Cheers

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Marijuana Czar
Member
Since: Oct 01, 2009


Sep 22, 2011 08:25 pm

Gear Involved:

Behringer 1204FX Mixer (not the usb kind)

Behringer UCA 200 USB

M-Audio Fast Track USB

Phantom Power Supply Box, (to power my mic, the fast track usb hasnt got phantom power...)

Guitar effects pedals

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Since: Nov 11, 2007


Sep 22, 2011 08:50 pm

Check out resources on the difference between mic level, line level, and high impedance signals. It's kind of a pita to get a handle on, but worth knowing.

The jist of what you'd learn is this: your mic is going to output at mic (or line level if it goes through a pre-amp before hitting the guitar pedal), and your guitar pedals are going to expect a high impedance signal. Since your guitar pedal is expecting apples and your microphone is giving it oranges, it'll sound less than ideal. I know less than ideal is good enough in a lot of situations. I've done this before using an m-audio audiobuddy pre-amp and an Ibanez Delay pedal. Hopefully your pre-amp has a 1/4" output that will easily connect to the guitar pedal. Then you can connect the pedal to the fastrack. I wouldn't bother with the Behringer for this purpose, unless you need to spit the signals into clean and affected. If you do need to split the signal, use the Behringer with the guitar pedal in the aux sends like you said.

There is a solution to make the vocals sound good through the guitar pedal, but you would need something called a re-amping device.

Marijuana Czar
Member
Since: Oct 01, 2009


Sep 23, 2011 07:50 am

Could someone please help me figure this puzzle out.?
How would I be able to use pedals with the gear ive litsed.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 23, 2011 12:08 pm

I guess I'd say slap into an effects loop on your mixer...no other way I can think of...

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Since: Nov 11, 2007


Sep 23, 2011 01:26 pm

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Marijuana Czar
Member
Since: Oct 01, 2009


Sep 24, 2011 05:08 am

Could you ellaborate dB?

Do you mean hook the fast track up to the behringer mixer and use the aux sends?
Coz thats what I want to do, but the only outputs I have on the fast track usb are RCA's so im lost on how the output of the pc is going to be routed... and also if I run into double preamping... which cant be good can it?
*****Could someone take some time to suss out my gear's inputs outputs, and help me out?

Thanks to those who have replied already.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 24, 2011 08:33 am

Well, I am going to go by what I think you are looking for...and I am unsure of what is right...I guess my first thought is that the mic can not be plugged right into the effects pedals, it has to be preamped to some extent...the only preamp I am seeing that has some built in signal pathing is the mixer...so while incredibly unorthodox, I'd say chaining the effects pedals in an aux send of your mixer, with the mic plugged in to the mixer is a viable, though odd, solution...possibly...maybe.

Eh, cornfusing.

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