Since: Feb 07, 2005
You could be running into a phase issue. Have you nudged the copies of the tracks?
Posted on Apr 07, 2011 12:57 pm
Rockstar Vatican Assassin
Member Since: Mar 20, 2009
OK guys.... I'm so confused right now that I'm spinning in circles. You've seen some of my other posts (
www.homerecordingconnecti...20926&frm=8 ) and I've used a lot of info contained within them. But now I think I've attempted to attack guitars at three different angles and all three ended up in crap. The problem is trying to create an uber-crunchy metal with a touch of 'airy-ness" to give it that professional recording sound (keeping in mind, I record both guitars through a POD6). Every article i've read both here and elsewhere talks about duplicating a guitar track and adding subtle delay (HAAS) to that copy to create that stereo effect. Well that's all great, but I have two guitarist (2 original tracks + two copies = 4 total tracks).
I've tried inverting the polarity on the duplicate tracks, adding HAAS delay to them, using nothing but panning w/ no FX... all crap!! No matter what I try, I seem to be creating more "flatness" than "air" and it sounds like a high-pitched cluster _ _ _ _ in my car's stereo.
So here's my questions in order of processing/editing:
If I already have a "left" and "right" guitar track (each with their own sound), should I still create the "copies" to make 4 tracks to play around with (panning, fx, etc..).
Depending on the answer to the first question, which tracks should I bus over to a HAAS delay? The originals or the copies? (Note: The mains are EQ'd; the copies are in their raw form (no eq or effects or compressors.. just a copied WAV file plastered into a track).
When I add the delay, am I always making sure what's left stays left and what's right stays right. Or am I using the delay to create the L guitar to appear on the right and vice versa? Should I cross pollenate, if you will, or keep the respective guitar in their proper "stage" spot?
A trick to HAAS delay, supposedly, is to keep the original and the copy (keeping in mind, one guitar example) panned dead center and to use the BUS with the HAAS to move the sound around L and R, respectively. That theory works with only two tracks... but with 4 tracks, is this a good idea?
What is the typical dry dbs for a delay (I usually sit around -1.7)? Feedback % (about 10%)?
If the guitars sound crispy as a result of all of this, should I be EQ'ing 1k or so out of the guitar track, or the BUS with the Delay?
If a screenshot tells a thousand tales, I can upload an image of my mixer to a file share. PLS HLP!!!
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