During playback, my sound seems squashed

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Member Since: Feb 17, 2003

When i record through my delta 44 into cool edit pro, i notice that when i play back what i just recorded, it sounds kind of squashed, or in other words, the trebble isnt very loud at all. it is as if the sound is muffled. i know that i can add a little eq, but i dont like the idea of it taking away the highs, because conversion also takes out highs. i dont want an all out bassy sound.

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Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


May 08, 2003 01:18 am

is your signal going thru the Alesis EQ at all? Ever, I mean during recording or at playback? Also, how are you monitoring? Headphones from the Behringer? Check for any EQing on the channel on the Behringer and also for software EQs in Cool Edit (i've never used CEP, can't help with that)

Also check what sample rate you're recording at... 44.1KHz can reproduce the whole audible specrum, but 22.05KHz looses the top-most octave. lower sample rates loose even more and more treble.

Member
Since: Apr 14, 2003


May 08, 2003 06:27 am

i am recording at 44.1KHz, and no, i am not currently using the alesis eq. should i be? the reason im not using it is because im not sure where to stick it and whatever. i also thought that i should record as flat as possible.
anyways, i am monitoring through the carvin monitors through the monitor/control room out.

thanks

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


May 08, 2003 11:25 am

no, record flat if that's what you want, I'm just trying to narrow it down as to what would cause your recordings to loose treble.

I'm thinking it must be something in CEP, an EQ or filter might be active, hopefully something that can be disabled.

Did this just suddenly start recently, or has it always happened?

Member
Since: Apr 14, 2003


May 08, 2003 11:44 am

well, i am just starting to record. i micd off my guitar cab and ran it into the mixer (flat), and assigned it to sub group one. From the sub out, i went into channel one in of the delta 44. Then i recorded. i have been messing with the software, but i didnt add any effect whatsoever. I will look to make sure, but i am almost posotive that there is no effect. I dont think that i could assign an effect and it still be there the next time i open cep anyhow.

thanks

jason

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


May 08, 2003 12:01 pm

Well then, unless you're EQing on the mixer on the way in, I can't think of how you're loosing the high end.

Are you sure you're not just hearing the difference between actually beign in the room with the guitar amp, and then playing back only what the microphone picked up? Maybe it's something in the type of mic used and it's placement?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 08, 2003 12:11 pm

What mic are you using? Do you have any "roll-off" option on your mixer that is minimzing the highs?

Member
Since: Feb 17, 2003


May 08, 2003 06:25 pm

i am using an sm57 mic. i have all eq flat.

thanks

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Member
Since: Jul 01, 2002


May 11, 2003 10:55 am

have ya tried upping the eq around the 12khx level...thats often what i have to do to get a decent sound...

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


May 11, 2003 05:47 pm

I've recently found that the sm57's have a surprisingly crisp high end, compared of course to my "radio shack" type mics i've been using. i'm curious to see what the problem here is.

jason, one way to check and see if it's just the sound of being in the room with the amplifier would be to isolate the amp in another room with your mic. Use a long guitar cable and a long mic cable and put them on the other side of a closed door. This will kill most of the high end that the amp is creating and let you focus on what the Carvin's are reproducing. You can at least determin eif it's your ears playing with your perception. no microphone can pick up exactly what you hear.

Member
Since: Feb 17, 2003


May 11, 2003 07:01 pm

ok, i will try that as soon as i get a longer mic cable. thanks for the suggestions guys.

thanks
jason

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