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Adam Mutschler
Abomb Muchbaby
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Since: Jul 02, 2009
Mar 11, 2010 11:55 am

Hey Guys,

So I have about 6 tracks finished. What I am looking for is a decent way to set the levels consistently, and then somehow manipulate the tracks so that one can fade into the next, so on and so forth. Is there a good program or easy way to do this? I would imagine there should be a way to even do this in cubase or something?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks,

adam
MassiveMaster
MASSIVE Mastering, LLC

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Since: Aug 05, 2008
Mar 11, 2010 01:48 pm

You can line things up in just about anything, but assuming you're going to want to actually burn a disc or something at some point, you'll need some sort of basic PQ editor. WaveLab Essentials will probably do the trick if you're not looking for a lot of horsepower.
Fragile
Jar-Jar Czar

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Since: Sep 30, 2009
Mar 11, 2010 02:29 pm

What exactly does a PQ editor do? Like what sort of tools are in WaveLab Essentials that a standard DAW (like cubase) will not do? I've never really heard much on this. Sorry for hijacking this thread a bit Adam, but i'm really quite curious.
MassiveMaster
MASSIVE Mastering, LLC

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Since: Aug 05, 2008
Mar 12, 2010 12:22 am

It allows you to edit the P & Q subcode while burning a disc.

Wavelab, CD Architect, WaveEditor, Bias PEAK -- If you want to burn a compliant disc, you need to use a compliant editor.

THAT SAID - I understand (I *UNDERSTAND* - as in "don't quote me on that") that Nero will burn a red-book compliant disc "behind the scenes" (for lack of a better term). But it doesn't give you an awful lot of control...

A typical DAW is used for recording and mixing. A PQ editor is used for authoring the production master. A couple "hybrid" systems (Sequoia and my personal fav, Samplitude Pro) basically do it all from start to finish.

Really bad things can happen when people try to replicate non-compliant discs... Oh, I have stories...
Tim N
Uh, at least one more time . . .

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Since: Feb 07, 2007
Mar 13, 2010 12:46 pm

Yes, Nero will allow you to place ISRC codes into the disc, but that's about it (starts and stops, too). It's "Redbook," but it won't burn a true pre-master . . . at least I can't with it. As long as you're on this subject, MM, don't the full-feature programs that author PQ also create a special file that is actually used to make a production CD? I mean, say, the WAV files are converted into another form to cut way back on errors. I can't remember where I read this, unfortunately, but I came away with the understanding that I can't just use Nero to make a pre-master CD that a CD manufacturer could then duplicate--the audio has to go through another file conversion(?) before this.
MassiveMaster
MASSIVE Mastering, LLC

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Since: Aug 05, 2008
Mar 14, 2010 01:41 am

I *think* the disc is compliant - But that's where I get picky... If I can't print a PQ log, it's not compliant (even if it is). If I can't guarantee 100% that the pause before the first track marker is precisely 150 frames, it's not compliant (even if it is).

The audio isn't really converted - The PCM data is the same. It's the way it's reference in the TOC (table of contents) on the disc. How it's formatted, where it is in the data stream, etc.

That's why I say "behind the scenes" - I've been led to believe that Nero will do all this (DAO, properly formatted TOC, 150-frame pre-gap, etc.).

But if it can't "prove" it, I won't take the chance.

Then there are the programs that just muck it all up... iTunes being the most popular one over the last few years... Those are written to fiction-book standards.

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