Line 6 podfarm (audio interface pt 2)

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Eh, i figured i'd start a new thread just for the heck of it with my new questions.

CptTrips, i think i remember you saying something like you're able to record the UX's tone clean, then add the effects and models to it later? Is there any way to do that, auditioning amp models i've tweaked would be really handy :]

Also, has anyone experimented with the line 6 wahs? I've got a buddies 535q crybaby sitting in my room, and i do love it :] but i think hes getting antsy and either wants it back or some cash for it soon, so what are your opinions on the line 6 wahs?

Btw, i may be getting the metal, bass, and pod xt expansion packs soon. I just absolutely freaking LOVE this piece of equipment! I'm seriously considering selling my 2 year old guitar amp, and 4 month old bass amp (though i've gotta admit. It'll be tough letting go of my GK. that thing sounds so crisp ahhh beautiful tone!). This was by far the best $200 i'd ever spent.

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Nov 09, 2009 10:48 pm

i just bought the poo farm softy and awaiting it delivery atm.
i heard a recording where a dude was using it and it sounded awesome.
im considering mixing it with an amp signal but will see if i even need it.

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Nov 09, 2009 11:26 pm

Haha that was my plan too! I spent probably a good solid 6 or 7 hours working with my amp tone (over a few nights), finally getting something workable. But even with all the EQ, compression, whatever it still had this unprofessional home piece of crap feel to it. A lot of "air" in the mic.

But the very second i strummed an open d5th. oh baby ;] This thing is SO much more tweakable than i'd expected. The amps REACT so much more like a real amp than i'd expected. Even the noise gate is freaking cool haha. Line 6 blew me away.

But those clever bxstards really know how to make you want more. Its preloaded with lots of presents, very helpful for a decent starting point with effects you're not used to, or radically switching styles. But at least half of them have "locked" equipment that you've gotta buy an expansion pack for. So basically, browsing the presents, familiarizing yourself with the equipment only wets your taste for the equipment they won't let you use. Not that i'm complaining :]

Czar of Turd Polish
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Nov 09, 2009 11:37 pm

Yeah, you can re-amp using the plugin no problems. I usually record the modeled signal and the direct signal for each take just in case I don't like the tone.

What I was talking about for you was adding multiple plugins on one direct take. Adding only chorus (no amp sim) in one, then only delay in another, and then amp model and other effects in a third. Might sound like crap, but is a possible workaround for the effects limit :)

I never really use effects much for recording as I don't use any live either.

Typo Szar
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Nov 09, 2009 11:59 pm

I dont know wat u bought from Line6 but the gearbox (podfarm) i got with my KB37 doestn allow for the models to be used in post, u have to record them either dry or modeled and u have to buy another plug to be able to use the models as a standard VST plugin. im not sure if that was ur question but yeah, usually if u buy equipment from them u get all the modeling stuff and can use it while u record, but they require u to buy additional plugs to allow for them to be used as VSTs taht u can just plug whenever.

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Nov 10, 2009 01:03 am

i bought the vst plug in one.
It'd better be the full version.

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Nov 10, 2009 01:13 am

Ah, gotcha now. I don't have the vst version, or if its possible to use as a VST i haven't figured it out yet. Ah well. I'm going to try to read the pdf file tonight, assuming i don't pass out again :[

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Nov 10, 2009 01:30 am

yeah i dint get any hardware just the softy and then purchased an ILOK.

there's definatley a hardware version and an ILOk version.

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Nov 10, 2009 09:18 pm

I know I simply went to Line 6 just a bit ago and got a free license for Pod Farm upgrade which included the VST pluggin and the works.

I know I don't see anything that I don't have installed in the UX-2 though. No tempting treats along the way. But I did notice that I don't seem to have access to all the FX or heads I have in GearBox. Very odd.

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Nov 10, 2009 09:34 pm

OH ya Fragile. I'm glad to hear that you are spending time to tweak it.

I hate to hear those that buy it and then plug in their guitar try a few presets and then say it sucks. Every guitar is going to sound different in it so you have to tweak it for each guitar. Glad to hear your digging in.

I bought the first version of the POD upon its release around 1996 and haven't stopped tweaking them since.

I now have a fully loaded PODxt and the UX-2 of course. I don't see ever not using them.

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Nov 10, 2009 11:54 pm

Oh i'm a tweaker all right. Probably my biggest downfall as a musician, though i know it'll pay off in the end ;] i hardly ever get any songwriting done anymore since i'll spend hours on the "okay yeah this sounds good but i wonder if THIS totally different setup would sound better."

As soon as i got the UX2, one of the first things i did was go threw just about all the presents, until i was distracted by the synths ;]

In a matter of 3 or 4 days use i decided to sell my amps and possibly my brand new i5, i just don't have any use for it anymore! The gear i have doesn't compare to this stuff.

I'm actually gonna get all of the upgrades by the end of the week (maybe excluding the vintage pack and vst pluggin to save $50 bucks), I'm very curious how this thing will pan out. Haters of direct modeling obviously haven't tried it out yet :] on any sort of budget, this thing trumps all.

Quick question, will any expression pedal work for wah control in here? I saw a line 6 one for $70, but it looked pretty much plastic. I found a moog for $40 that looked much more stable.

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Nov 11, 2009 12:06 am

Ahhh darn them and their mediocre marketing techniques! I read the list of amps that comes with the vintage and... well. I'm in. $300 bucks and i'll get it all. Why not haha.

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Nov 11, 2009 07:24 pm

Are you looking at doing the wah via midi or does the newer UX have an expression input? I know mine has to be run via midi as there is only foot switch inputs no expression.

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Nov 11, 2009 07:44 pm

I only see footswitch outs. I don't even see midi outs. How do you connect midi to it? I noticed it has midi drivers that you can use, but i don't see any way to hook it up. I was hoping footswitch outs could be used as expression pedals. Hmm. Maybe i'll contact line 6. The manual didn't really explain much on the footswitch outs. Actually, if i remember right they didn't even say what they are on the back.

Idc how its accomplished, i just want to be able to use expression wah with the program.

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Nov 12, 2009 02:02 am

i just got an email from the place i bought my Pod Farm.
it seems the guy sent me Platinum instead of Pod normal. (havent received it yet)

for an extra 100 he said i could keep the Platinum, so i thought, hell why not. tis pretty cheap all up, 190 bucks AUD in total.

now, i dunno if that was an angle in the first place or what, but he got me at the right time and i caved. ah well.

i got Platinum now, so be it.

and now, a little poem:

Friggin software! when will it all end?
It coaxes me to spend, spending, spent.

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Nov 12, 2009 08:14 am

Haha, we are so weak. No backbone whatsoever. But eh, who cares. Now you have pod farm platinum :] nice poem btw lol.

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Nov 12, 2009 11:03 am

Well i did some research on the expression pedal, and now i get what you're saying haha, a separate pedal that connects to your PC, right? I was hunting around line6 forums, and a couple people said the UX2 doesn't support midi yet. If it does, i'll probably buy this pedal i saw from line 6 for $100.

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Nov 12, 2009 10:21 pm

@ Fragile.

The midi is in the program itself. You can do it one of several ways. I can't remember if you had a midi keyboard or not. But those usually have an input for expression or volume and you can re-route the volume if that is all it has. And use the pedal to control the way.

And the midi would travel through the USB cable anyway if it needed to. And actually if you go into the set up panel for the UX from GearBox you can actually see that the knobs on the UX can send midi. But there is also a section to tell it what type of midi CC message to look for and were to send it.

The other alternative is if your simply doing a rhythm type of wah movement you can write the automation to a midi track in your software and send that to the UX or GearBox or PodFarm or what not................

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Nov 12, 2009 11:44 pm

Hmm, i'm still quite confused. But its my fault not yours, i need to understand a few more things about how this program works which i'll try and figure out tonight.

But you do seem certain that midi control works, so now my main concern is that POD Farm doesn't yet implement MIDI (a forum from about a year ago said they don't support midi, YET. But were soon hoping to update.) I've heard gearbox works fine with midi, but that doesn't do me any good haha.

Either way, thanks for your help. I've got a forum posted on the Line 6 boards, but who knows when i'll get a reply or an answer.

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Nov 13, 2009 03:50 am

have a look thru the program and see what its got, check the help menu.

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Nov 13, 2009 08:18 am

It DOES have a tab for midi. Which is pretty convincing that this will work :] But $100 is a lot to spend on something that might not work :\ I'll let you guys know what Line 6 says, if they ever decide to reply (browsing the forums, i've seen quite a few unanswered ones. Which i really don't understand. They have support guys on staff, they should be able to answer practically any question in a matter of a day or two. Look at HRC! Jeeze i post a forum here i've got 4 or 5 guys giving me direct answers in under 24 hours. And no one here even gets paid to answer questions. I love you guys haha :] )

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Nov 13, 2009 10:05 am

you wanna try cubase site, man they dont answer anyones questions, i dunno why they even have it.

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Nov 14, 2009 12:08 am

@ Fragile. You can sstill download GearBox if I am not mistaken and use that as well. You don't have to use Pod Farm to control the thing all the time.

I'm surprised the install disc didn't come with GearBox on it.

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Nov 14, 2009 01:03 am

Cool! Thanks for the tip Noize. Maybe it did, i didn't really think about it, but maybe i did see a folder called "gearbox" in the disk directory. I'll take a look soon for sure.

I'll try my hand at a midi pedal quite soon then.

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Nov 14, 2009 01:13 am

I just looked into the archives and don't see it there anymore. I'll do some checking as well. I think they may have been phasing GearBox out in favor of PodFarm.

GearBox was the second generation of software control panel's for the Line 6 gear so I'm sure things advanced and away we go.

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Nov 14, 2009 06:04 pm

line6.com/software/index.html

Just found it :] If anyone in the future needs it, just select gearbox from the software tab and BAM. You're in. Thanks for the tip Noize!

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Nov 14, 2009 06:24 pm

I didn't even think to ask specifically for Gearbox. I'm a twit. :-(

Cool that you found it though. I'm sure the Line 6 Monkey will want to update it though.

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Nov 16, 2009 12:06 pm

Line 6 monkey seems to be ignoring it at the moment :] it doesn't even see it on there.

Okay, so to clarify, a midi expression pedal would be able to use the automation in cubase, and control wah. Correct? Even while just monitoring.

Any pedal suggestions? the cheaper the better. I don't care if it has footswitches or not, just an expression pedal to roll up and down on would do the trick.

www.guitarcenter.com/Line...918-i1471775.gc

This is one of the few pedals i found that seemed like it could do that, and the cheapest. But its difficult to search for. I keep running into 1/4 inch exp pedals and other random midi gear. What pedal do you use?

Czar of Midi
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Nov 16, 2009 11:05 pm

Ya, that pedal though is only to connect to their amp line or the POD line. Although it uses midi CC data it doesn't work with anything but the amps and the POD as it hooks in via an RJ45 jack built into the units.

IF I get a couple minutes I will try and find one of the units I am talking about that will work.

Do you have a midi interface or one of those USB midi cables?

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Nov 16, 2009 11:19 pm

Oh snap, gotcha. Thanks noize.

And yupp, i've got the M-Audio Uno.

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Nov 19, 2009 07:02 pm

line6.com/data/l/0a060072...-%20English.pdf

Very bottom of page 7 seems to indicate that the FBV MkII will work with midi in gearbox. Here's an excerpt "If you want to use your FVB MkII hardware to control the line 6 gearbox..." blah blah blah download this at that website yada yada yada.

Just thought I'd share my find! That being said though, anyone know of any cheaper expression pedals? $100 isn't too bad but i am curious. I've been having a tough one finding any that even connect via midi.

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Nov 19, 2009 07:33 pm

i got my pod farm platinium a few days ago.
have already knocked up a pretty killer sounding preset.
dunno if you can do this with just the normal pod fram but with platinum i can do a dual set up.

so two different amps running at the same time.
chunky as.

im pretty pleased with it so far. at least i can write and carry on anytime without annoying people.

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Nov 19, 2009 09:35 pm

OK, I went and looked a little deeper. I didn't realize they had a USB port on there and it does seem to state it can be used connected to the PC to send midi CC data so that would mean to me that it can.

I don't really know of any other units like that for under that price either.

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Nov 19, 2009 10:16 pm

Yeah, that duel amp is a VERY handy feature that i find eating up hours of my time :] its always a battle for me. Should i have 2 amps that, alone, sound quite weak (one bassy, one trebbly) but combined work great. Or should I get two amps that sound good alone but still find a way to compliment each other. Different situations call for different techniques and i just LOVE this things versatility.

And yeah, you can use dual amps with the "stripped" pod farm. But after using this thing for a few days i immediately made the upgrade. This program is so killer! I'm not gonna go as far as to say i'd send something recorded on here out to a record company. But its a jewel to us hobbyists.

And thanks noize :] thats all i was wondering, if i could save a couple bucks haha.

Ahh good feeling. 99% of my gear is together. The other tidbits i don't have are more "toys" than essentials. Finally getting down and dirty with this recording shnaz :]

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Nov 19, 2009 11:34 pm

messugah used line 6 pod for there latest album i think. so its doing smething right the guitars on that sound sweet.

i was mucking around with a quite saturated distortion from a line 6 amp and another thinner one from the 100 watt solo head. coming along good now.

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Nov 20, 2009 12:40 am

I don't have platinum and can run dual. I love that setup. I actually recorded my new semi hollow today. Learned a hungarian scale and made a surf riff outta it? I think it's semi surfy, I don't know.

is called hungarian, nothing but guitar
www.homerecordingconnecti...sic&id=4006

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Nov 20, 2009 01:48 am

nice, yeah i guess its kinda surfy, i cant put my finger on it.
its different sounding. be interesting to hear this in a song.

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Nov 20, 2009 01:49 am

Wow, really? Hmm rock on :] All i know is for my purposes and equipment, this thing is a god send.

And not too shabby CptTripps! Beautiful tone and nice riffing. Very unique i gotta say. Man, i've always wanted a semi hollow haha. I've never even really played one (5 mins at Guitar Center cant do anything justice). But yeah, nice work on the Hungarian surf lol. I listened to it a good 4 times :]

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Nov 20, 2009 01:55 pm

Thanks dudes :) And Deon, it is intended for a song for a vocalist who is trying out soon. I am starting a new post hoping for suggestions because I want to wow her when she shows up.

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Nov 20, 2009 09:59 pm

To be honest there are a lot of artist's that use Line 6 gear and or emulate their guitar tracks either fully or just filling in alongside the live amps.

Tripps, that is awesome. I gotta play it tomorrow and jam along with it. I was hearing some really cool shiznit in my head while listening to that.

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