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Posted on Nov 08, 2009 05:49 pm
ccavera
Member Since: Nov 08, 2009
Hi guys. I need you to take a listen and let me know what you like or don't like about this mix. I feel that I'm too close to it to know what's going on anymore.
www.cavera.com/Secondary.mp3
Thanks!
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 08, 2009 07:16 pm First off I just have to say this is an excellent arrangement and all instruments are very well played. It immediately churned out Dream Theatre vision's from the late 30 second mark in the intro. It is definitely belonging in the Prog/Fusion category for sure.
I must ask if the drums are real or programmed. There are moments when they sound real and others that sound programmed. Although the drums sound's remain the same throughout the piece there are some spots that the timing and hits feel a bit too tight or programmed. A couple of tiny little miss stepped beat's that are not hugely obvious.
On the instrumentation, I found all sounds to fit for the most part. Though there are a couple spots that might have a bit too much low end content and it gets a little mushy. But I will have to listen again a bit louder as that very well could be in my head as I was not listening loudly.
I really like the arrangement though for sure. All parts fell into place easily and kept my interest throughout the piece.
Are there any issues that you might have been concerned with yourself? I don't really hear any huge things to really call out as wrong in the mix itself. Although as I stated, I did not listen at a good loud volume.
cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Nov 08, 2009 08:50 pm The drums suond like a program to me, so sorry if im a wrong, but listening now if it is programed maybe a bit more dynamic adjustment to teh snare? i feel like its kind of like this constant click through the song coz even with the fills it rarely misses the backbeat and it has a really consistent velocity that drives right up the middle of the song
other than that the mix is really sweet, really clear and fits the style very well. maybe just a bit more depth? u have alot of stuff really well placed and most of ur synths r clear but maybe sacrifice just a bit of the clarity to push back some of the stuff and move forward some other stuff, i think a bigger sense of depth would really benefit such a massive song.
Nov 09, 2009 12:11 am Wow, dude. Impressive, all i can say to you is i now bow in submission to your excellence xD You really took this piece in directions i hadn't seen coming at all. Good job.
J-botByte-MixerMember
Since: Dec 04, 2007
Nov 09, 2009 01:39 am Man, awesome arrangement. Totally dig it. Parts of it kinda remind me of a cross between Shnabubula over on OCRemix, and Matoi Sakuraba. I think the tones and instrumentation really work nicely together. You definitely get a sense of the piece being organic and evolving throughout.
I don't really have speakers capable of showing me the really low low end. (anything sub 50hz anyway) so I can't really say anything on the low bass. It sounded alright to me though.
Anyhoo, I don't really have anything to add that wasn't already said heh. I'll give it another listen tomorrow as well though. I'm really liking this one.
Nov 09, 2009 01:07 pm Hey thanks guys. The drums are real and I'm indeed very lucky to know such a great drummer.
I think the thing I'm most concerned about is if you guys could detect any bass masking. Like I mentioned in the original post..I've listened to this thing so much that I'm afraid I might be to close to it and missing something obvious. I did cut everything below 45hz. But I left the lower end of the rhythm guitars alone this time. Sometimes I filter out everything below 110hz on rhythm guitar tracks.
Thanks for the feedback.
Chris
J-botByte-MixerMember
Since: Dec 04, 2007
Nov 09, 2009 03:34 pm Hmm, well, if you're concerned, you could always roll a little off at a time and see how it sounds. But like you said, when you get really involved with a mix it can get to the point where you're second guessing yourself. You could try rolling the guitars off around 40 or 50Hz and see how that goes for you. I mean, they do sound beefy compared to some of the other instruments, but not in a bad way at all. If you feel the rhythm guitars are too full sounding, you could try thinning them a tad with a small cut in the low mids.
One thing I did feel on a second listen, were that the hats were a little crisp. It could just be my monitors though, since my Tannoys tend to be a bit on the bright side.
But everything comes through very nicely in the mix overall, and I don't feel that any frequencies are getting cluttered or stepping on each other. Everything is sitting pretty nicely from what I'm hearing. I think beyond that it just becomes flavor really.
