Oct 13, 2009 03:51 pm Slapback delay may be the term you are fishing for. You may want delay AND reverb. Reverb will make the slapback delay less noticeable as delay. I would definitely put delay before reverb though.
Delay questions?
Posted on Oct 13, 2009 03:35 pm
Indellable
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Is there a time to use reverb and delay on a signle track or should you typically just use one or the other?
Also, is there a common name for the delay effect that is most often used on vocals which just produces a slight delay of the main vocal at low volume and ends up making it sound a bit thicker? Almost like you have to strain to hear it.
If I try to accomplish this with reverb it ends up sounding tingy. Just figured it out, that the sound I am looking for is probably a Delay and not a reverb. If I'm right, should I take out the reverb effect I use on most vocals when using a Delay or have both effects on these tracks? Thanks.
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Oct 13, 2009 03:51 pm Slapback delay may be the term you are fishing for. You may want delay AND reverb. Reverb will make the slapback delay less noticeable as delay. I would definitely put delay before reverb though.
Oct 13, 2009 08:31 pm A doubling delay setting is typically <50ms with no feedback (or very little), you might also want to add a slight amount of chorus to get a stronger effect. You may still want to use some reverb as Quincysan suggests.
Dan
Oct 13, 2009 09:22 pm Most reverbs also have predelay functions which r basically a delay effect before the verb, so definitely try that first. Personally i use seperate delays and reverbs on the same track, no rule against that, and it gives me a bit more control on shaping the whole effect.
Oct 14, 2009 03:38 pm !!!!! I never quite knew what the pre-delay knob was for!! Thanks Crux.
Oct 14, 2009 03:40 pm think of predelay as procrastination of the effect.
Oct 14, 2009 03:50 pm Uh oh...you got my thinker thinkin'...
Hypothetical track setups:
A.) Vox w/ delay as an insert, typical slapback timing on delay. Has pre-fader send to reverb aux input track. No Pre-delay on reverb.
B.) Vox w/ reverb as insert w/ predelay set at the same timing as slapback delay from track A.
C.) Vox w/ no inserts, but a pre-fader send to a slapback delay aux insert track. The aux insert track sends to ANOTHER aux input track that has reverb on it (no pre-delay)
If I understand you correctly, Sir Deebs, B.) is the same as C.), and B.) is not the same as A.).
Oct 14, 2009 07:46 pm What Deebs said, is how I considered the term .
A moment of measured space before the verb kicks in.
Not an entirely diferent effect(delay) put befopre the verb.
Oct 14, 2009 08:08 pm K...I'll play with it and see what happens, I should be able to tell when I have the effects in front of me. Thanks Deebs/Hue/Crux
Oct 14, 2009 08:12 pm Yessir... it will be plenty obvious. : )
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