Delay questions?

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Member Since: Aug 12, 2008

Is there a time to use reverb and delay on a signle track or should you typically just use one or the other?

Also, is there a common name for the delay effect that is most often used on vocals which just produces a slight delay of the main vocal at low volume and ends up making it sound a bit thicker? Almost like you have to strain to hear it.

If I try to accomplish this with reverb it ends up sounding tingy. Just figured it out, that the sound I am looking for is probably a Delay and not a reverb. If I'm right, should I take out the reverb effect I use on most vocals when using a Delay or have both effects on these tracks? Thanks.

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Since: Nov 11, 2007

Oct 13, 2009 03:51 pm

Slapback delay may be the term you are fishing for. You may want delay AND reverb. Reverb will make the slapback delay less noticeable as delay. I would definitely put delay before reverb though.

Since: Jul 02, 2003

Oct 13, 2009 08:31 pm

A doubling delay setting is typically <50ms with no feedback (or very little), you might also want to add a slight amount of chorus to get a stronger effect. You may still want to use some reverb as Quincysan suggests.


Typo Szar
Since: Jul 04, 2002

Oct 13, 2009 09:22 pm

Most reverbs also have predelay functions which r basically a delay effect before the verb, so definitely try that first. Personally i use seperate delays and reverbs on the same track, no rule against that, and it gives me a bit more control on shaping the whole effect.
Since: Nov 11, 2007

Oct 14, 2009 03:38 pm

!!!!! I never quite knew what the pre-delay knob was for!! Thanks Crux.

Since: Apr 03, 2002

Oct 14, 2009 03:40 pm

think of predelay as procrastination of the effect.
Since: Nov 11, 2007

Oct 14, 2009 03:50 pm

Uh got my thinker thinkin'...

Hypothetical track setups:

A.) Vox w/ delay as an insert, typical slapback timing on delay. Has pre-fader send to reverb aux input track. No Pre-delay on reverb.

B.) Vox w/ reverb as insert w/ predelay set at the same timing as slapback delay from track A.

C.) Vox w/ no inserts, but a pre-fader send to a slapback delay aux insert track. The aux insert track sends to ANOTHER aux input track that has reverb on it (no pre-delay)

If I understand you correctly, Sir Deebs, B.) is the same as C.), and B.) is not the same as A.).

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Since: Apr 11, 2004

Oct 14, 2009 07:46 pm

What Deebs said, is how I considered the term .

A moment of measured space before the verb kicks in.

Not an entirely diferent effect(delay) put befopre the verb.
Since: Nov 11, 2007

Oct 14, 2009 08:08 pm

K...I'll play with it and see what happens, I should be able to tell when I have the effects in front of me. Thanks Deebs/Hue/Crux

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Since: Apr 11, 2004

Oct 14, 2009 08:12 pm

Yessir... it will be plenty obvious. : )

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