Room Re Verb ?
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Posted on Sep 23, 2009 10:37 pm
WhiteNite013
Member Since: Aug 29, 2009
Let's say the recording room has natural re verb, is it necessary or needed to use a plug-in? Plug-in to much in this case? OR would it be best to capture the re-verb in room with a delay and call it done? What's your opinions?
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cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Sep 24, 2009 12:37 am I love me some good natural verb, ultimately teh question is however, does the track need the extra verb? does it need the room verb?
give ur track wat it needs, if its good with the room verb u got, then great right? less work for u
if its not, then by all means put on more verb. nothing in mixing is necessary, the only necessary thing is to do wats best for ur track
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Sep 24, 2009 04:26 am Run a DI track and blend with the natural reverb... best of both worlds ;)
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Sep 24, 2009 10:27 am First, realize that most natural reverbs are going to sound more pleasing to the ear than digital emulations of reverbs. If your room is well-treated and has a pleasing natural reverb to it, then by all means try to use that to your advantage.
But if your room's reverb is full of flutter and echo, boomy bass standing waves, or other peaks, then you're going to be better off using a plugin reverb (well, you're actually going to be better off treating the room and getting the acoustics sounding acceptible).
If you have a good natural room reverb, then you can accentuate it by backing your mics away from your sound sources a bit, which will give more room reverb in the mix. If you put your mics closer to your sound sources, then you're going to end up with more of a dry sounding track (less room reverb compared to direct signal).
One thing you can do with some of the newer reverb technology is to capture an impulse file of the room's reverb. Then you can use that impulse file in a VST plugin like SIR reverb:
www.knufinke.de/sir/sir2.html
Dig around the web for details on how to create an impulse file for use in a VST like SIR, or you can find free or commercially available impulse files.
Bottom line is that crux has the right idea in his post above. If the natural room reverb isn't putting enough ambience on whatever part of your recording you're dealing with, slap some VST reverb on there until it's sufficiently backed away from the listener.
Think of your recording as being in 3 dimensions. Frequency is the top-to-bottom dimension. Panning in the stereo field is the left-to-right dimension. Amplitude and reverb form the front-to-back dimension. Add more reverb to back things away from the listener.
But you don't want your entire mix to sound distant from the listener. So go easy on the reverb. A good rule of thumb is to turn it up so that you can just hear the reverb, then turn it back down a notch from there.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Sep 24, 2009 08:28 pm To add to what Tadpui said on backing them mic's away. You can also add a second mic farther away from the singer to pick up more room and mix it in if as stated the room reverb is pleasing and sounds good.
