Phasing without two mics?
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Posted on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 am
crux
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Member Since: Jul 04, 2002
I know phasing is a problem to look out for when using multiple mics on a single source, but what about multitracks of the same instrument?
I layered my guitars and I have the odd suspicion their out of phase coz they sound kind of thin together, but my hearing isnt so tuned that i can be sure. I just wnat to konw that if its the same instrument not mutli miced but overdubbed with teh same setup several times, maybe a change of pickup or tone, can u still get phasing problems?
and while were on the subject, any good suggestions on free plugs for phase correction? i just a vid for the Radial phase alignment unit and it seemed really user friendly,anything like that in free VST format?
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pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Sep 23, 2009 12:33 pm I would think anything, or any two tracks of the same thing can have phase issues.
Zoom way in on the track and see where the positive swing is in relation to the other track. That'll let you know for sure.
As far as plugs to help, I know I've heard of a few, but can't remember them ATM.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Sep 23, 2009 01:05 pm I would think not as they are not the same thing. My guess would be EQ as they may be stepping on each other.
Sep 23, 2009 01:54 pm Phase issues come from two things. Angle and Time.
If you are recording with two separate mic's, ( which your not, but still) check the wiring to ensure that pins two and three are correct for the both.
Having them reversed will have the angle 180 degrees out of phase.
The next thing to check is the time, or even distance of the mics. Any variation in time causes the phase angle to shift. And any difference in distance ( at least over six inches ) will also cause a slight phase shift.
So, it sounds like there may be a slight lag in one of the tracks that you have. Which would be the same as two mics being far apart. Zoom in close, see if all of the peaks and valleys are matched. This could explain a thinner sound.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Sep 23, 2009 08:46 pm Yep, simply moving a track forward or back by a few milliseconds can cause it to phase. I used to do that for an effect on certain instruments. Or nearly anything.
