Apr 10, 2003 09:38 pm I havn't used it, but i've been eye-ballin' this one myself.. I still havn't decided which comp to go with
is this compressor worth it?
Posted on Apr 10, 2003 07:01 pm
fortymile
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the dilemma: youve got a bit over a hundred bucks. you need a small mixer to use with your new computer system and soundcard. you can spend all the dough on a mixer, or you can split it and by a smaller mixer and this outboard compressor, the only one you can afford. you know, however, that your new system will be fully capable of applying after-the-fact compression to any signals you record. so, is this compressor a good buy, or is it capricious?
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Apr 10, 2003 09:38 pm I havn't used it, but i've been eye-ballin' this one myself.. I still havn't decided which comp to go with
Apr 10, 2003 09:48 pm it is nice, isn't it.
i just don't know if i need it.i mean, why is compressing an incoming signal more important than just doing it afterwards? i think i heard jues say that once.
Apr 10, 2003 10:06 pm i think it's a combination of the quality of analog comp versus digital algorithms, and the *headroom* offered by analog versus the concrete ceiling of digital. Mostly the headroom thing. I'm curious about this myself, 'cause that's just the conclusion I've come to
Apr 10, 2003 10:10 pm Nice verbage there Jamie, I would think you have been doing this for 20 years by that reply. Especially the Quote:
*headroom* offered by analog versus the concrete ceiling of digital. part. You rock dude.
Peace
Apr 10, 2003 10:24 pm right on. ;O) You probably taught me that
Apr 11, 2003 03:26 pm hahaha
i just have no idea what that means at all.
Apr 11, 2003 05:30 pm Ha.. What's funny is when you start trying to explain something like that with those expressions to someone who has no clue what you're talking about, and you realize you just take it for granted when people understad what you're talking about. I remember trying to explain dithering to someone (Which I don't fully understand myself). I was comparing it to graphic compression and drawing all these pictures and little dots and stuff, and they were just smiling and nodding. Then I realized I wasn't making any sense... They shouldn't have asked in the first place :-)
Apr 11, 2003 06:41 pm oh yeah... sorry
Headroom's not in the Glossary. It's how much room you have between the most quiet sound you can record and the most loud. In an analog signal you can push you luck and even send your levels a good ways above 0dB. But with digital you can't. OdB is the highest you can go. After that you run out of bits.
Another word: "dynamics". this describes the differneces between loud and soft. Compression is dynamic effect, it controls the volume. Digital is very "set" in it's dynamics. 16bit digital audio has 96dB of headroom, no more. That's why we like to go ahead and handle the dynamic aspects of our sound before it ever get converted to digital.
I'm getting a compressor real soon. Probably at the end of this month. I might shell out the extra cash and get a dbx 266xl.
Apr 12, 2003 09:24 am I'm getting a compressor real soon. Probably at the end of this month. I might shell out the extra cash and get a dbx 266xl.
... i did :)
jamie?
Apr 12, 2003 11:25 am oh okay, Right on, yeah, I've been pressured. It's also gonna be part of my bass rig so I want to get something nice :O)
I'm playing bass for my brother-in-law's band right now, maybe just a temporary thing, at least until I get a job. But I couldn't hear myself over the PA, so they turned me up, and we got the cops called us last night ::yes!:: I just wanted to tell everyone. I finally feel like a musician.
Apr 12, 2003 01:55 pm Its usually the drummer that causes the problems with the police, its nice to see someone else, like the bass player get the rap for it once in awhile.
Apr 12, 2003 03:47 pm well it probably didn't help that that other day they had the kick drum mic'ed up to the PA. That's what caused the initial complaint.
Apr 12, 2003 08:37 pm Heheh
We have to hire out practice space - costs us £45 for 4 hours (so 9 each) - but the upside of this is that we get to use their 5k PA Rig - always mic up the Kick Drum, use our Guitarist's Marshal JCM Lead Valve Amp and the Practice Studio's own Trace Elliot Bass Rig.
Heheheh - we get to be as loud as we want - oh and they have a bar there too :)
jues.
Apr 12, 2003 08:40 pm OOOOO, a practice space with a bar, that would be trouble for some guys I know. They think they are great when they have been drinking, but truth is, they arent that great sober.
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