Last guitar trade... I promise!
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Posted on Jul 31, 2009 01:49 pm
Hue
Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member Since: Apr 11, 2004
I traded the Ibanez SA for one of these puppies......
It's in flawless condition, and the maple fretboard is sah-weet! These are also about the best sounding 'stock Ibanez pups' that I've come across... the INF-series. I really missed that blue RG that I traded for a Strat, that I traded for a Gibson LP, so getting another was on my list. This is also the first one I've played that has the Edge-III trem system, which seems ok so far.
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Jul 31, 2009 04:36 pm wow that think looks sharp! frisco was tellin' me how you were whorin' out all yer gear traddin' this and swappin' that lol yer a maniac! (yeah we had like an hour phone convo last week haha i talk to her more than you now! haha) my roomate jamie has an RG that we just love to shred on...fast fingerboard on 'em.....never heard of the edge 3 trem system...gonna read up on it. this one looks like a keeper to me though....the humbucker in back and two single coil's is my fav setup.
Quincysanhttp://www.unitedmusicians.infoContributor
Since: Nov 11, 2007
Jul 31, 2009 05:03 pm I've seen the RG's in action...I'm not much of a shredder, but the dude playing made it sound goood. Liking how sinister the SA looks...I wouldn't leave it in a room alone with small children, it might eat them.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jul 31, 2009 05:41 pm Haha I had no idea, Chris! Funny ****, indeed.
I think that's what the trem is called... jus' says Ibanez on it, though. Yeah... diggin' her, just as she is. BUT Look again... it's an H-S-H, bud. : )
Yeah Quincysan, she was a looker... but that's about it. I don't miss her at all.
Jul 31, 2009 06:24 pm Very nice man! I love both my RGs. Yeah I think the Edge III is the newest evolution of the edge trems. I believe mine have a lo pro and edge pro trem or something like that.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jul 31, 2009 07:11 pm Thanks man! Yes, those are a couple of beautiful RGs that you have, for sure. I'll bet that 7-string is just a beast! lol Cheers!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 01, 2009 07:58 pm Yep, RG is the way to go. Ray is completely in love with the 87' RG-770 that in my profile. And my 87 770 that has been well altered is as well my favorite guitar. Just something about Ibanez. And the thing is, they were responsible for the big change's that took place in shredding guitars.
Aug 02, 2009 05:54 pm can't you drop in an OFR in the Edge III route? or is that just the edge? anyway, if i ever get another Ibanez im putting an OFR in it. i dont like ibby trems at all
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 02, 2009 08:12 pm I love my real Floyds. Both 770's here have the real Floyds and I wouldn't trade em for the world. Although now Ray is getting into drop D and some alternate tunings and that sucks on most trem guitars. So I've decided we are building a hard tail for him with the special drop D bridge similar to the one used on a Peavey Wolfgang.
Aug 03, 2009 01:15 pm Yeah I've been considering for some time getting a guitar with a fixed bridge for that very reason. I'd like to play in drop D every now and then but I don't have a guitar I can tune down. Ibanez also have the Edge zero now which looks pretty sweet. It has a blocking mechanism that locks the trem and allows you to drop tune.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 03, 2009 04:39 pm Ya, the Floyds we have on ours can do it. Just not very stable. Which I would not expect from that type of trem system anyway.
But ya, the Washburn rfrom the robert Palmer video may be the hard tail as the original trem on it was that funky thing Washburn had that didn't use a pocket so there is no huge hole to cover up and a hard tail would mount right no with no modding it.
But ya the newer trems now many have that blocking mech. The Wolfgang is set up with a trem but when you flip the drop D on it locks appears to lock it up.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Sep 11, 2009 01:21 pm I've been able to get into the guitar a bit more since I posted this, and it really did take quite a bit of adjusting to get it to its sweet-spot, which is the trick with any floater. The balance between strings, springs, neck, and bridge has a very low tollerance to changes outside it's 'happy place'. If you change one aspect, such as string guage, then the rest of these aspects will requite attention, as well. This is why so many people get frustrated with them. Something goes slightly out of whack, just from general playing, and the rest of the factors flollow suit, and it takes a bi more than addressing the obvious problem to get it back to where it needs to be to work.
I think that the guy who traded me thought he was getting rid of a real lemon, because at the moment of the trade, its set-up was an absolute mess, and could not hold tune. It appeared that what happend was when ne changed its strings(they were brand-new at the trade), he neglected to retrieve its initial balance... either that, or he never achieved it.
In any case, after much playing, and adjusting, and more playing and adjusting, I did manage to find its happy place, and was then able to 'comfortably' explore the boundries of this particular instrument... which I may add, are 'way out there'. The INF pups are some of the best sounding 'stock' pups I've heard. Even its middle single coil is pretty darn quiet when not being used, and sings under the right gain structure. As far as its Edge-III trem goes... it's not an OFR, however, it is very tight, responsive, and geuinely smooth. It's much better than the one that was on my last RG, as well as the one on my Epiphone LP-Studio. Both of those had the 'collared' type connection, and are loose, and noisey to boot. Not unusably so, but you know the type I'm talking about... you let them go, and they slide down to a vertical position and squeak as they pendulem beneath the bridge. My only complaint about the Edge-III is that it sometimes will get 'hung-up', and you have to give it a quick-'lil tug sharp to get everything back into tune... I think some Nut Sauce will cure this, though. The maple neck and fretboard is a Wizard-II shape... very comfy, and smooth. I don't think that there is one single thing on this guitar that I'd want to mod, or trade-out for something 'better' for. It's a pretty solid axe.
Sorry 'bout the long post. I meant to get back to this, and it seems as though I got a bit carried away with my 'report'. : p
Oct 25, 2009 04:08 pm i traded one of these for a NT Warlock. best deal ever.
im gonna go off topic for a second, so deal with me.
people talk **** about BC Rich all day and most of them never even played the 800-1k guitars let alone the handmades. my advice is ignore every guitar on the market thats under $600 regardless. my personal rule is at least a grand, but BC Rich has great prices for their good guitars. They're neck through, with original floyd rose trems, not licensed ones like on equally priced ESP/LTD or Jackson guitars, bound ebony fretboards, etc.
I bought an ESP M-II neck thru for almost 2k and the BC Rich Speed V for 800. the BCR plays, feels, and sounds better, not to mention better placing of controls. The only guitar i have better is the Jackson KV2 but that was 2k so it doesn't count.
If you're a metal player look into Bernie Rico Jr, he's the son of BC Rich founder Bernie RIco and has his own company now far superior to BC Rich, awesome custom shop. The Vixen is the best guitar ever made in my opinion.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Oct 25, 2009 07:30 pm That $600 rule excludes a whole lot of good and potentially great instruments. Especially when you think of used instruments. The QA of > $600 instruments isn't going to be what the QA is of more expensive instruments, but brands like Epiphone, Ibanez, Schecter, G&L, even Gibson, Fender, PRS, and many more have $600 guitars that, if you get a good one, will rival even the most expensive mass-produced guitars.
You have to throw price out the window when you go shopping for guitars. (says the guy who just bought a Martin D-41, lol). Let the instrument tell you if it's your guitar. Don't let the tag hanging from the guitar tell you anything other than the make, model, and whether there's a defect, and whether you'll be stopping for champagne on the way home, or if you'll be begging for bus fare from strangers.
The key in this price range (like any other price range, really) is to play everything you can get your hands on and find the right guitar for you. Since most guitars available in this price range are produced in very large numbers, the QA on them is just going to be more lax. Actually, it's less about being lax than it is about statistics. If the Gibson custom shop churns out (totaly making this number up) 100 guitars in a day, then they can really give each one a very thororugh once-over with just a few people. But when Epiphone puts out 1000 guitars in a day, it takes a lot more QA to make sure that those guitars are all free of even the most subtle defects. So you need to play all of the guitars you can in order to make sure you get get not only an acceptible one, but maybe the 1-in-1,000 gem.
I think that shopping by price range is as bad of an idea as shopping only by brand name. You're just going to automatically and arbitrarily eliminate a lot of good instruments from consideration.
Oct 25, 2009 07:31 pm get a few lottery tickets and hope for nothing but custom shops
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Oct 26, 2009 10:25 am I agree that BCRs can make a nice axe. I owned a Warlock Platnum-Series for a little while, and yeah, there wasn't too much bad to say about it.for the inexpensive guitar that it was ESPs are fine as well.(Man, that Vixen looks like a shred-machine from Hell!)
But...
Maybe it's me, or maybe it's just something that comes from aproaching forty... but, the whole price vs. QA,(or any of the 'typical' reasons you would buy a guitar for) goes right out the window, if you find one that shows you who you are, and surprises you from time to time. That could end up being anything from a 10$ banjo you found at the local thrift store, to that $2500+ flamed-oiut beast that you scrimpted, and saved for a year to have someone build 'just for you'.
There are three guitars in my collection that I will never part with... all Les Pauls of one 'level' or another. Ironically, the most expensive one gets played the least, and the one that gest played the most... and more importantly, the one I 'connect with the most' with... happens to be the only one that's an Epiphone.(The other two are Gibsons) By 'connect with the most', I mean 'the one that allows me to express myself with, the most'. Argueably, it is the most imprortant attribute a guitar shoud have.
I understand that you can get down to the nitty-gritty, and have something built for you that is so-very-close to perfection on that level of connectivety, but unless playing guitar truly is your 'life', then that is something that is unrealistic, and unnecesary... there are many fine mass-produced models to be had ouit there, and if you're as 'lucky' as me, it just might be found for a little over two-hundred-bucks. : )
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Oct 26, 2009 03:48 pm Yup, the most valuable guitar you own is the one that you play the most. You can't afford to be a gear snob when it comes to shopping for a guitar (or any instrument, for that matter).
When shopping for my acoustic, I played a whole lot of high-end guitars. I played a few custom Martins that were well over $3000 that I thought sounded boxy and about as impressive as the $150 Fender acoustics I've played. I was truly disappointed that Martin could create an instrument that sounds like that, much less charge custom shop prices for it. It was an OM custom with an Adirondack Spruce top that seriously sounded like one of those cheap-*** Fender acoustics.
I ended up settling on a D-41 after playing the whole gamut of Martin's most heralded instruments: HD-28, D-35, HD-35, the Eric Clapton and John Mayer custom models, the D-15, and finally the D-41. It was my hands and ears, not my wallet that decided which was the best. It did turn out to be the most expensive one that I played, but it was also the best sounding instrument that I'd ever laid hands on.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 26, 2009 05:43 pm I have to agree. It isn't always the price. My pride and joy is my Frankenstein 87 Ibanez RG 770. Not much 770 left other then the body and some hardware. But it is my favorite guitar. And the 87 RG 770 that we bought for my son is very killer as well. I like it better then some of the 3 and 4 grand guitars I've played. It's really all a matter of personal comfort.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 18, 2009 02:12 pm Well, I said that my The Paul II is one of the guitars I'd never swap, but I seen something on the 'ol Craigs List that made me change my mind...
A Peavey 5150II head, which the onwner is looking to trade for a Gibi LP, or LP Jr..
Whatd'ya think guys?
I do have other guitars, and this is one mean metal amp that takes to moding very well. heh heh
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 18, 2009 10:58 pm I Like the 5150 II myself. But I do know there are some out there that don't think it compares to the original 5150.
I personally do think it does, and as ou stated as well it is more like an older Marshall and is open to some very cool mod's that make it one killer amp and then some.
If your not gonna cry over the P II being gone then I would say go for it. Maybe wanna check the head out though to insure it is in good shape.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Nov 19, 2009 08:51 am It looks as though the only difference between the 5150, and the 5150II is another 12ax7 in the pre-section, and a sepparate eq for the high-gain channel. Sounds as though there's just a bit 'more to love'. Sound-wise, I don't thing that there is that much of a difference. A good amp, for sure.
Just the same, I slept on it, and I think I'll be keeping th guitar. I'm pretty sure I'd miss it. Almost as much as the Flextone that I had to sell.(long, sad story) The Randall is filling it's shoes well enough, but I do miss all those lush effects the Line 6 stuff has... especially their 'Sweep Echo'.
I may need another night to think on it. : )
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Feb 24, 2010 11:14 am 'Sup guys!?! : )
I never did go with that 5150... which has lead me to what I'm about to do this evening...
As mentioned above, I told m'self I wouldn't trade any of my Les Pauls... well, never say never, eh? I just found myself playing that one less, and less, so...
Sooo, there's a guy, on the 'ol Craigs List of course, that is willing to swap his 300w Line-6 Vetta-I head w/FBV Longboard for that same The Paul II. He's installed the Armon cab mod, and already upgraded it to Vetta-II firmware v2.5. Needless to say, I am very geeked, indeed! This thing is an amp-tweakers dream! It's like having two Flextones in one, both with another 30+ amps/cabs, and 50+ effects more than an original. Just SICK!
The funny part is that I had sold my FlextoneIIIxl and Shortboard, about six months ago because I got m'self into a bit of a financial bind...I missed it so much that I replaced it just last week... now this. lol I guess the Flextone will get to be my 'at the office' amp, to practice at work with. heh heh
