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John
Member Since: May 06, 2007

Hey all,

I am trying to make sure I have the right setup for the situations I am getting into.


I am using a Line 6 UX2 audio interface for a lot of my vocal and guitar recordings. There is no RCA outputs for my studio monitors. There is only a Left anaolg out and a Right anaolg out, and they are 1/4 inch outputs. My studio monitors have the Red/White RCA stero inputs on them.

So my first question is, are these analog outs on my UX2 unit the 2 out puts I use for my monitors? And do I need 2 cables (one for left and one for right) that have 1/4 plugin on one end and an RCA on the other?

I also just got a request from a band thats coming i, to not use headphones during drum tracking. We are doing triggers and ToonTrack's supperioir drummer 2.0. so mics are not an issue. The drummer wants the sounds from the drums, click track, and guitar player to be crankin' in his ear via a stage monitor.

So, here is what I have to work with on that:

I have this small Beringer mixer:
pro-audio.musiciansfriend...ixer?sku=631238

I also have a Nady 16 channel mixer if need be. Its some what shot in a few of the inputs, but I'm mainly concerned with the UX2 outputs into it. The one I have is older, but this is the newest model that is close to it:
www.instrumentpro.com/P-NADCMX16A

And this Nady Power amp:
pro-audio.musiciansfriend...fier?sku=482090

How would I use these three units to provide the Line 6 UX2 audio to come through the monitors?

Thanks for any help in adavance.

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Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jul 26, 2009 08:54 pm

Either mixer will work as you'll just have a stereo feed from the triggers and one mic for the guitar. You could do one of two things here. Simply run your monitor for him off the mains on one of the boards direct and then pipe the drum to the UX to be recorded. Or run the playback to the monitor for the drummer off the UX line outputs to the monitor using the direct monitor function.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004

Jul 27, 2009 09:33 pm

You can use any patch cable that has RCA on one end, and 1/4" on the other end. here's some at zzounds:

www.zzounds.com.../item--HOSCPR20

THey have different lengths, so you can connect far and near. I also used RCA to RCA cables, with RCA to 1/4" adapters on the end. Either way will work OK.

I'm not quite sure how you're hooking things up. How are you recording the drums? the ux2 doesn't have MIDI, i believe, so i'm not sure how you're tracking the midi data. Is there another computer involved?

You say the drummer wants the sound from his drums, do you mean the acoustic sound of him playing, or the SD2 signal coming from a computer? If SD2, then what computer is creating the signal, as I thought the triggers would feed into a PC via MIDI and then trigger SD2. Correct me if I'm wrong here, as I've not set this up before.

If you already have the guitar sound tracked, then I think you should be able to just plug from the LINE outputs of the UX2 over to the inputs on the power amp. Then connect the speakers to the power amp, and turn it up. I can't see why you'd need to use the mixer.

I don't know, however, if you're trying to track the guitar at the same time, so that would complicate things. I'm not clear by what was posted, so I'm gonna assume you're just playing back (already tracked git).


John
Member
Since: May 06, 2007

Jul 28, 2009 12:21 pm

Thanks Noize.

PJK:
Here is how I have everything set up. I am still waiting for my Rloand acoustic drum triggers to come in, but I have used Roland triggers before on my last band's recording. So I'll be doing the same here.

I will be using an acoustic drum kit with Roland triggers. For hi hats, cymbols, and any other drum needed sound that isn't a snare, tom, or kick drum, I'll be pulling trigger pads from my Yamaha DTXplorer kit.

I'll be running the triggers and pads to an Alesis DM5. From the MIDI out of the DM5, I'll be going to an M-Audio USB MIDI interface, I use Sony Acid Pro 7 for my DAWS, and that will give me access to the USB MIDI interface, as well as the Line 6 UX2.

I'll be loading Toon Tracks SD2.0 up, and the M-Audio USB MIDI interface will send the Alesis info to that. Then I'll be routing the SD2.0 drum sounds to the UX2. So The UX2 will have both the SD drum sounds and whatever guitar sounds the one guitar player will be using.

Instead of using headphones from the UX2, the drummer wants the monitor. So All the SD drum sounds and the guitar sounds need to come through that monitor. I get all of them through the headphones of course, but thats where the anaolog outs I am assuming have to come into play.

Did I confuse you here? Hahah I hope not.


Also, one other thing. I have a trigger snake that came with my Yamaha DTXplorer, but it only has 8 cables on it, and I'll need more then that. Do I just need an instrument 1/4 cable for each other extra trigger I'll be using? I see "special trigger cables" on other websites, but I am sure that is just a dollar dollar thing...?

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jul 28, 2009 09:28 pm

The special cables arer just a dollar thing for sure.

YOu simply want TRS cables for dual trigger pads and simple TS cables for regular single trigger pads.

John
Member
Since: May 06, 2007

Jul 28, 2009 09:41 pm

Awesome. Thanks Noize. I think I will be using only one dual zone trigger on the snare. I have not used a dual zone before, so this should be interesting.

I may need some help from your end as far as heavier bass tones go. As you recall, I wasn't to swift with our bass tones, and I really want this kids to have a solid demo. They are all young, and I remember what it was like at their age trying to get things started. So I am working dirt cheap for them and I want good quality work all around so I can get some future 'clients' if you will.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jul 29, 2009 10:11 pm

You know how to find me. I'll be glad to give you a hand again for sure.
Young is good, and your a big help giving them a good start.

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