A new addition to ma fam...

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member Since: Apr 11, 2004

Nero is a six year old pitbull with a very calm demeanor. He's absolutely great around kids, and quite protective of those he considers his own. I am stoked, as I've always wanted a dog like this, but never really prioritized it into my life. Well, he was scheduled to be taken to Detroits Highland Park animal shelter, because his owner moved into an apartment complex that wouldn't permit him to be kept. If we would've allowed that to happen, within a day or two he'd have been in a pit getting his *** kicked by a much more aggressive beast, and probably dead by the end of the week. He was way too nice of a animal to allow that to happen. I feel very good about this... a bit like providence in effect, saving this kind beasts life.

Pits get such a bad rap... you always hear the horror stories, and I'm glad to see this disproved. It's the owners that make a dog turn into a killing machine, and while I am not being fooled that this puppy can cause quite a bit of damage if allowed to, I am confident that he wont with the proper routines of training, and supervision. Nero is a 'good dog'. : )

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jul 06, 2009 10:00 am

I put a pic in my profile of him.

Tell me now.. how could I let a face like that be destoyed? lol

Frisco's Most Underrated
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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Jul 06, 2009 01:25 pm

Not all pits are created the same. But a good pit is a great dog and very loyal. My aunt's jumped in front of a rattle snake and took the bite rather than letting my aunt get bit, and then killed the snake. She was pretty sick for a week or two, but after a trip to the vet, she recovered. Treat it well, and it will love you...

but me I'm not a dog person ha. Congrats all the same.

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Jul 06, 2009 01:40 pm

Great looking dog!

A friend of mine has the same colors as Nero. And is the same sweet loving dog.

But mine friends make a very lousy guard dog. He has a habit of running up, and laying on his side to be petted. And then would probably show the bugler where all of the good stuff is.

I hope Nero is a little more protective.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Jul 06, 2009 03:01 pm

Thanks guys. hahaha Yeah... that sounds like Nero, as well. When I say he's protective, it's the not the scary kind that consists of growling, and snapping. He only reacts that way towards other animals, such as cats, squirrels, and of course other dogs. More like this example:

This morning, he walked into my bedroom, and took what I refer to as his 'guard-stance', that is, he will sit with his back towards what he's guarding, looking out-away from it to watch and see if there is anything that it needs to be guarded from. In this case it was my gal. I told him to leave the room, and he just looked at me like 'did you say something?'... she tells him to leave the room, and he imediately complies. Why? Because in his eyes, the guarding is over, until the next time, when he acts like this towards someone/something else. He's new, and still trying to figure out 'whos' dog he is. It's quite interesting to watch an intelligent animals behaviour, like this. It's also a bit tricky... I want him and her to bond, but not to the point he wont let me by her. So, after work today, it'll be some mental, and physical exercises for the both of us. : )

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 06, 2009 05:07 pm

Yep, nice color's on Nero indeed. A dog like that can easily be a personable pet without a doubt. My Dobermans were all very formidable watch dogs as well as protector's. But only on command or if anyone in their circle were actually threatened. And never attacked straight off without a verbal command.

Your dog will probably be much the same from the sounds of it. Good luck with him, and the name is pretty cool as well.

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Jul 06, 2009 07:37 pm

Congrats Hue, I've only had the pleasure of getting to know one pit. He was great though. Not even a grunt of disapproval the first day I walked up to him. He was intact too.

That being said, I had a great Australian shepherd that had some authority issues we had to overcome. To date, he has been the most compliant and protective dog I've ever had. Before he was "kid-friendly" (aka- he bit children), we had to take him to some pretty intense training classes. We used a guy who had trained dogs for military service, the guy was tough on the dog, but he completely changed his level of compliance. He went from respecting one person (my mom), to respecting the whole family.

If you start to feel like Nero is questioning your authority, you might consider some training. In my experience, the Petco variety is a load of crap, your dog should obey you because you're his owner, not because you're holding a treat. I'm sure Nero's a great dog...but those pits are too strong to take fore granted in my opinion.

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Jul 06, 2009 08:54 pm

my mate had a few over the years, they really are great animals if they arent trained to kill stuff.

they do have to be watched around other animals as a killer instinct seems to be definatley in them naturally, but they have the best character.

both the last pittes my mate had died of cancer believe it or not. not very good.

they were great dogs with such a nice demeanor.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Jul 06, 2009 09:28 pm

Thanks guys. I'm really diggin' him. We worked with him a bit this afternoon. Nothing too overwhelming for him, as he's still getting used to his new environment. One thing I noticed, he does not like fireworks that go 'boom' of any kind. Someone blew up an m-80 about a half mile away, and the dog barked in all directions for a while. It was confused as to which way it came from. So, it looked at us all, one at a time, while barking to see if we reacted. It was interesting. He calmed down, and was back to his lovable self in in a couple of minutes. doesn't like fireworks, or thunder. lol Even such a bad-*** of a dog, has silly issues.

My concern is that he's six, and that's like what... 40ish? I hope he can still learn a trick or two. Like... 'Don't kill that.', and 'Drop that small child.' I kid, I kid. I think he'll be fine, as long as I don't ask too much of him. He's just so mellow, and seems fine with being pat, and laying around the house. Now, I just have to find a good place to let him out to really run, walks only do so much... it's not like I can take him to the local dog-run-park. Too many idiots have tried that, with sad, predictable results. I'm told it's important to get his heart-rate up to effectively exercise him... like aerobics! Left him alone in the house for the first time today too... just for a couple of hours, and we still have a living room! Cool dog, for sure. His previous owner said that he had never made a mess in the house, not even once(even after 12hrs of him at work), so I've got that going for me.

When I see a pit like this, and hear the horror stories... they just don't add up. They're such a sweet, and loving breed. Whatever these ******** do to an animal to make them go from this, to that is so wrong, on so many levels.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 07, 2009 12:14 am

In my experience, all dogs bite. That's what they're for. Anything that has the littlest bit of loyalty will defend what it thinks is theirs.

For anyone (not just picking you out, Hue) to think 'my dog doesn't bite' is being naive and foolish.

ALL dogs bite. That's what they do, and what they're for.

That said, if someone knows that their dog can, and will, bite, then they can act accordingly, and nobody need be hurt un-necessarily.

To answer any questions, I've known owners to put down their 'great' dog, that would never bite anyone, because the dog actually bit someone. The last one I know of is a family dog ripped the lower lip open on the 15y/o daughter of a very good friend of mine. Totally un-provoked, as the girl was going to pet the dog, as she's done many times (the dog knew her). The one before this last one, was 2 pit mutts, ran out off their property to attack a woman walking on the street.

I'd rather see a dog controlled, than a innocent girl's face mutilated.

I'm sure you'll have a very good natured, and well behaved companion, but better safe than sorry, I think.



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Jul 07, 2009 01:11 am

only difference is, a bite from a pitty or bully as opposed to a german sheppard or border collie is that these dogs are "unstoppable" once they latch on and start thrashing which makes them that much more dangerous.

you'll never stop a bully or pitty once they get going, ive seen their temprement in this regard first hand, man you'd wanna have a good escape plan or a gun. especially when they want some action with another dog. the power in them is remarkable.
they are like the Terminator of dogs. even when you've taken the other dog away or have moved on, it just wont stop pineing for it. they just have that crazed thing in them.




Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Jul 07, 2009 08:03 am

Agreed, guys. It would be stupidity, on my part, if this dog were to bite someone. As you said, all dogs bite, and with that in mind, I have to be very careful introducing him to new people... especially kids. I would really hate to have to put him down myself, and deffinately would have to, if he bit someone, as the damage would surely be extensive. I don't believe that dogs bite without reason though. Sometimes the reason is unseen, so you have to take that into consideration.

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Jul 07, 2009 09:50 am

I just got a call from my son Bill, who took Nero for a walk this morning, saying that they had a bit of a run-in with two other dogs. One, a large german shepard, was chained up in a yard, started barking at them, basically went spaz but was chained-up, so it was unable to get close to them. Nero didn't even flinch... just looked at the dog as if it were nuts The woman who owned the dog came out to tell it to calm down... it was at that point her other, much smaller dog, ran out the door and right up to Nero to sniff-hello. Bill was very nervous about the situation, and tightened-up his choker to hold him taught, just in case. He didn't bark, growl, or snap at the little rat-like dog. Just gave a sniff back, and wagged his tale, as if saying 'Hi, little dude!'. lol I'm so releived that nothing came of it. I explained to him that he should not expect the same results, should it happen again, and to be ready to pull him away, just as he was then, everytime he encounters anyone/dog that's new to him.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Jul 07, 2009 01:59 pm

wow nice dog for sure....my parents have a wolf hybrid that's kinda got the same attitude....real laid back and easy gooin' ....i love dogs

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Jul 07, 2009 03:21 pm

I heard from a friend that the way to get a pit to unlock once it is biting something is to smack it on the butt. That way it thinks it is being attacked from behind, and it lets go to see what is going on behind it...

He said it worked when a pit was attacking his dog, but I've never had to try it thank goodness.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 07, 2009 03:25 pm

Pits get an unfair bad wrap because too often, the people that buy them train them to be vicious dogs...but they aren't, a dog is what a dog is trained. I know a guy that breeds pits, and raises them well.

The problems with dogs is often times the owner, not the dog.

Czar of Midi
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Jul 07, 2009 05:28 pm

As dB said, 90% at least is on the owner of the dog. Pitbull, Doberman, Rottweiler all need constant attention and need a great deal of excersize to burn off a bit of steam everyday.

They all get a bad rap because of bad owner's, not bad dog's.

But that said, it is in their temperment and goes way back in their bloodlines. They were all bred for a specific purpose, hunting and or protection. But teach them to play frisbee like any other dog and they can be easily controlled. But never ever drop your guard.

Especially if they look like this.

http://cdn-write.demandstudios.com/upload//3000/200/70/0/63270.jpg



Or this. And the Rotty here is a smaller dog for his breed. But their jaw strength is even more then a pitbull terrier because of the short stout jaw.

http://www.puppyparadise.com/puppyparadisetest/site/Breeds/rottweiler.jpg

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