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JScott Dethklok, Dethklok  Member Since: Dec 25, 2007  |
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Jul 05, 2009 02:41 am Hello, long time reader, first time poster. lol not really just been a while. Anyway, I have a Behringer MX 8000. Same as the 9000 just has a removable meter bridge mainly. I can't figure out; 1. Where to plug the monitors in. 2. How to control the level of each input seperately in the Monitor mix. Right now I have the monitors plugged into the Aux send 1 for the left monitor and Aux send 2 for the Right monitor. They ask me to take the vocals up in the monitor mix and I say no problem, so I act like I'm turning a knob and they say "That's better" haha. Thanks in advance. Scott |
| JScott Dethklok, Dethklok Member Since: Dec 25, 2007 |
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Jul 05, 2009 02:51 am Sorry, I didn't see the post almost directly under mine. It's basically the same question I had. But, If anyone has tips on my specific mixer and monitoring please help me out. Thanks, |
| MassiveMaster MASSIVE Mastering, LLC  Member Since: Aug 05, 2008 |
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Jul 05, 2009 02:13 pm Maybe I'm not understanding the question - I'm also not understanding "left" and "right" when it comes to aux mixes (but that's for another thread). You go aux out into the amp, amp out into the wedge, turn up until you see a "thumbs up" and go onto the next one. I'm not seeing the issue... |
| whosyourdaddy00 Hold 'Em Czar  Moderator Since: Dec 30, 2004 |
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Jul 05, 2009 03:12 pm should have a "control room" or "monitor" outout on the back (either TRS or XLR) wait a sec, are you using this for live application, or studio? what kinda "monitors" are we talkin' about exactly? |
| Noize2u Czar of Midi  Administrator Since: Apr 04, 2002 |
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Jul 05, 2009 08:01 pm What he has is really a studio mixer not a live mixer. Although it will work. JScott, good to see ya bro./ You can either use the aux sends as you are, and then when they need more simoply turn it up at the main or directly on the channel itself. You should have a total of 6 or 8 uax you can use, but it sounds like you only need the 2. The other option that might work well is to use the subgroups or busses. There should be 8 of sub groups on the desk. Then they are turned on by simply pushing the group button 1/2, 3/4 or so on. If you need 2 channels of monitoring then use 1/2 for one and 3/4 for the other. Then simply adjust the slider's for that group to bring up the monitor level. |
| JScott Dethklok, Dethklok Member Since: Dec 25, 2007 |
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Jul 05, 2009 10:05 pm I am using this mixer for Live Sound. Thanks Noize, it's good to be back. For instance how would i turn Channel 1 (Kick Drum) up in the monitors without turning it up in the Mains? MassiveMaster, I have it hooked up exactly like you say, The "issue" is.... I couldn't figure out how to add or remove certain inputs (ie.. Vocal, Guitar,Bass etc...) from the monitor mix. When the band wanted more Bass in the mix I didn't know how to turn the bass up in th wedges and not in the mains. |
| whosyourdaddy00 Hold 'Em Czar Moderator Since: Dec 30, 2004 |
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Jul 05, 2009 10:14 pm use the boards "aux outputs" to feed your monitor poweramps inputs .....then on your channel strip, say yer kick, for "more kick in the monitors" just turn up aux 1 on your kick channel. |
| JScott Dethklok, Dethklok Member Since: Dec 25, 2007 |
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Jul 05, 2009 10:20 pm Thanks WYD, I'll give it a try. |
| Noize2u Czar of Midi Administrator Since: Apr 04, 2002 |
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Jul 05, 2009 11:12 pm Yep, simply turn up the aux send on each channel you want in the particular monitor. say you want the kick only in monitor 1 then simply turn the kicks channel aux knob up for aux 1. If you want in both monitors then turn up both 1 and 2. This will follow for any channel strip you want sent to whatever monitor. |
| MassiveMaster MASSIVE Mastering, LLC Member Since: Aug 05, 2008 |
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Jul 05, 2009 11:46 pm This is what he said he was doing in the original post - That's why I don't get it... |
| JScott Dethklok, Dethklok Member Since: Dec 25, 2007 |
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Jul 06, 2009 12:17 am MM, I wasn't sure If I had it plugged in correctly.Now, I know I had it right. As far as "turn it up til I get a thumbs up" Thats good advice! So, I should stop turning it up when they say it's loud enough? lol The point is, I wasn't having any luck with this at the show. I will try what Noize and WYD said. So I now know if it's not working by turning up Aux 1, then I have something else wrong. So I can trouble shoot my original problem. Thanks fella's, |
| MassiveMaster MASSIVE Mastering, LLC Member Since: Aug 05, 2008 |
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Jul 06, 2009 10:43 am You should have aux masters somewhere (knobs, faders, something - Not familiar with your board). Set those to unity before doing anything. And if you're lucky enough to get a "thumbs up" before the whole room is feeding back, then yes - Stop. One rather serious thing to keep in mind (if you're not already aware). Typically, you can control aux sends post-fader (level will attach to and rise/fall in relation to the fader) or pre-fader (level will be in relation to the head-amp gain). There should be a switch for each send / each channel. Some boards have groups of them ("Aux 1-2 Pre/Post" or what not). Generally, for live use you'll be using pre-fade -- Generally. There are exceptions and plenty of them. |
| CptTripps Czar of Turd Polish  Member Since: Jun 20, 2006 |
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Jul 06, 2009 12:15 pm Yup, make sure the aux 1 & 2 mains are up a bit and then use the aux sends to control their level. What I would do, put a monitor close to you and fiddle around with these settings until you have a good handle on it. I like to use pre-fader so the monitors are not disturbed if tweaking levels designated to the mains. With my old Mackie mixer, I left the manual in the bathroom and read a little more each time :) By the time I had to use it I was pretty comfy. Also, I love pretend knob turning and the "that's better" comment :) |
| Rob Stemple The Czar of BS  Contributor Since: Dec 31, 2007 |
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Jul 06, 2009 12:19 pm Just because I feel I should say something...... Dido! |
| Noize2u Czar of Midi Administrator Since: Apr 04, 2002 |
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Jul 06, 2009 01:11 pm Aux 1 and 2 shoujld be hard set on the mixer to pre fader. 3 and 4 are hard set to post fader and then 5, 6 and 7, 8 are normal post fader and then the switch will set them pre fader. |
| JScott Dethklok, Dethklok Member Since: Dec 25, 2007 |
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Nov 05, 2009 09:20 am By the way fellas, I got the monitor problem sorted!! Thanks again for all your help. Now I am looking into upgrading alot more and have enough questions to keep Rob busy for weeks. lol I will be posting them soon, Not all at one time though. hha |
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