Mar 24, 2009 07:01 pm Wha t mic, and how exactly did you mic the cabinet?
Did you use a high loud volume with heavy distortion? Describe the exact signal chain you used while re-amping.
Basic Reamping Question.
Posted on Mar 24, 2009 03:55 pm
sion
Member Since: Feb 05, 2009
Hi all,
we are currently recording a demo, and i want to ba able to record the guitars clean, so i can re amp them after..
..Just not sure what i NEED to do this.
My set up at the mo is:
desent PC with:
M audio Delta 10 10lt.
Sound craft : spirit E12 12 chanel mixer
good selection of mics and cables etc..
Line 6 pocket pod.
M audio Black box.
Art tube Mp Pre amp.
and of course a marshal MG100 amp and cab..
The way that i have tryed it so far, is to record the guitar clean, through the pod, on bypass...
then rout that track out, straight to the amp, then bring the mic on the amp back in on another channel.
This worked, but not great....
Just wondering if i need some other bit of gear?
I have deen these " reamping" boxed for about 150 pounds, ( sorry, my pound sign doesnt seem to work!),,, but i dont realy have that sort of money.
Are there any cheaper alternatives??
Will anything i already have help here?
Any help is much apreciated..
Cheers.
Sion.
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Mar 24, 2009 07:01 pm Wha t mic, and how exactly did you mic the cabinet?
Did you use a high loud volume with heavy distortion? Describe the exact signal chain you used while re-amping.
Mar 25, 2009 04:15 am Hi,
We are recording heavy distorted guitars.
Recording:
guitar > pod ( on bypass) > computer ( vial delta 1010lt)
Reamping:
PC> Amp head > cab > Mics > Mixer > PC ( via Delta 1010LT)
Also tryed:
PC> Black box (on clean, just used to set the leveles) >Amp head > cab > Mics > Mixer > PC ( via Delta 1010LT)
On both these setups i got ALOT of noise from the AMP. even when the track not playing.
Cheers.
Sion.
Mar 25, 2009 04:17 am MG100 amp and cab
There is your problem.
Mar 25, 2009 05:22 am Never had a problem with the MG100 's before, and always been very happy with the sound.. but do you think its the amp thats causing the excess noise?
Mar 25, 2009 05:31 am Yes. The MG series is widely known for its horrid construction, reliability, sound, and rip your eyes out of your head-ness... But, roll back your gain. Make sure that you aren't running anything through it that cause a ground loop.(Effects, odd pickups, a shotty cable.) And if you are running a single coil guitar, get a Hum-Debugger from Electro-Harmonix. Also, make sure all your cables are shielded. If not, you are open to RF freq, TV stations, PC hum, etc... This is all the cables but the speaker cable of course.
Not to be an ***, but I have been doing this for awhile now... But, if you think that an MG100 Marshall head with an MG412 cab sounds good, you shouldn't be re-amping anything.
There is a reason
Mar 25, 2009 07:08 am thanks for the reply.
We are reamping ofr conviniance more than anything.
- we get problems with noise where we are, so reamping means that we can do lots of takes quietly, get the track perfect, then reamp it.
- Some one mentioned that i should be going into the CD in on the amp, instead of the guitar in. As the CD in would deal with the ine level from the computer better?
Cheers.
Sion.
Mar 25, 2009 11:53 am True. But does the CD input go through all of the gain circuits? I'd imagine that a CD input would be designed not to get distorted so you could actually hear/understand the CD when it comes out of the speaker. But I don't know for sure.
I think that you'll need to find a way to tame the signal strength coming out of your interface's outputs before it gets to the amp's input. Line level signals are stronger than instrument level signals, and your amp is expecting an instrument level signal. You can try turning down the output volume on the track you're reamping, in an effort to keep from overloading the amp's input.
Or you can get a DI box that's designed for just this kind of pupose. There are reamping boxes like this one:
www.zzounds.com...item--RADPRORMP
made specifically for what you're doing. There may be cheaper options. I'm not sure if a regular ol' DI box will go from line->instrument level. Maybe the pad on something like the Whirlwind direct box would tame the signal enough for it to drive your amp's input without overdriving it.
Mar 26, 2009 12:56 pm Thanks for the help guys.
I have had a play with the amp, and the CD input does seem to go through the gain channel. -
I have also invested in some new cables, and this seems to have sorted out the excessive noise i was geting.
I am going to run the tracks through on the wek end, so will let you know how i get on.
Cheers.
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