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i bought a mic pre a while back and was really impressed with the results i got from it, rather than using my interface pre's.

but what about the quality of audio output?
Im just wondering if it may be better me getting something of better quality in to that respect as well, such as an amp.
So,interface>amp>speakers.
instead of, interface>speakers.

do you think i would be looking to get a better qual sound thru my speakers(for mixing) or not much difference at all?
obviously i still want a flat response but maybe my interface isnt delivering a very good one of those.

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MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Mar 07, 2009 07:35 pm

I read that post three times and I not really sure what you're getting at...

Speakers aren't going to do anything without and amplifier... If you're talking about using passive speakers with external amps or active speakers with internal amps, it's all subjective. Some amps suck, some amps are nice, some amps are wonderful.

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Mar 07, 2009 09:43 pm

my speakers are powered, running em straight outta the back of my interface.

in regards to my mic pre, its way better than the little mic pre's of my interface and im wondering what the quality of audio is its putting out.

would i possibly be better running outta the avreage interface thru a good amp then the speakers?
Or is not going to change a thing?

yeah first post is a bit sketchy for sure...geez i hope this one is a bit better.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Mar 07, 2009 09:45 pm

im wondering what the quality of audio is its putting out.

(the interface)^

I am not a crook's head
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Mar 07, 2009 10:26 pm

The benefit of an external amp + passive speakers is that you get to choose each component separately. So you can determine the quality/fidelity of your amp and your monitors individually. Plus if one fries, you don't have to replace them both. And you can stagger your upgrades of each component.

Czar of Midi
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Mar 08, 2009 06:55 pm

If your referring to the quality of the output of the 1641 it is on the upper level of interfaces. Not the high end but upper of the mid level interfaces. So your quality is going to be good coming out of it. As far as running better amp and speaker's. Well ya, that will make a difference for sure.

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Mar 08, 2009 07:35 pm

ok cool thanks noize.
im also going to look into different speakers or at least listen to some others too.

could i ask your opinion (if you've heard of em before) what you think of the KRK v4's? compared to a bigger sized speaker?





Czar of Midi
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Mar 09, 2009 05:31 pm

The V4's are very good for what they are. Compact and small. They are not really meant to project a huge bottom end at all. I would compare them almost on the Yamaha NS10 level. The theory with the NS10 is that if you can make it sound good on the NS10 it will sound good on anything. Just a straight out small natural sound. Pair the V4 with a sub and your all good really.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Mar 09, 2009 10:01 pm

I don't think an amp will improve the sound coming out of your interface: what's coming out is what's coming out.

You can, however, take away from the material that's there, with a bad amp. as in, an amp that is light on a part of the spectrum, so it's not as clear.

So, if you add an amp, you're not going to improve any signal that is digitally created by your interface. If you wanted to improve your output, a better DAC would be in order, but probably would not be worth the trouble.

Kinda like a digital photograph. Just because you use a better program to open it, doesn't mean you're going to create any better quality than what's already present in the file. You can, however take away from the quality by using a low-grade program, that doesn't open at as high of resolution.

In the case of the interface, it is what it is. To create better audio from the digital stream that's in the computer, you'd need a better converter (DAC).

Brandon over at Recording Review has said, he got 100 times more improvement by fixing his room, then by spending thousands of $$$ on apogee converters.

and fixing the room was way cheaper too.

Hope that made sense.

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Mar 09, 2009 11:19 pm

Quote:
Brandon over at Recording Review has said, he got 100 times more improvement by fixing his room, then by spending thousands of $$$ on apogee converters.


I'd dare almost anyone to even tell one converter from another in a poorly treated (or untreated) space. Monitoring and the room. Nothing is anywhere near as important - ever.

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Mar 10, 2009 06:10 am

just did some big work on my room. and yes, it made a huge difference no doubt.

still have a bit of tweaking to do with it but all in all its heaps better.


Ne'er ate 'er
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Mar 10, 2009 06:46 am

Is anyone even using passive monitors these days in lower-to-mid-priced setups? I got the new AMS catalog in the mail yesterday and there's not a single passive in it.

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Mar 10, 2009 07:29 am

I think tuneing your room, and getting to know you monitors (i've had mine for about 7 years and i'm just now getting to know them) is the key. I'm more of a fan of powered monitors (as far as project and home studios go) less things to worry about as far as connections.

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Mar 10, 2009 08:09 am

yeah, the last set I bought I finally succumbed to buying powered monitors, I really like 'em...nut that they get much use these days.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Mar 10, 2009 11:39 am

Powered monitors straight from the interface here. M-Audio BX5a. I would like the sub one day, but a treated room first.

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Mar 10, 2009 04:14 pm

ive not had much to do with subs,
so you mix with the sub if your speakers dont have good bass response?

my V4's would fit into that catagorey.

could this mean im over compensating with bass? not just good bass freq, but all the crap ones too that i dont notice as much?

mmm, something to think about...

ok cool, i'll buy a sub!! woo hoo more gear!

Czar of Turd Polish
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Mar 10, 2009 06:00 pm

Well, mine have some bass. I just had to learn what good sounding bass sounds like through 5" drivers. I still overcompensate on initial mixes, but when I sit down and really work on something it's rarely a problem.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Mar 11, 2009 09:39 pm

Herb, I'm still passive.

Although I do own a set of Active's I prefer my passives, but that might just be me.

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