how to get that perfect harmonized vocal?

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giv me gear
Member Since: Jan 29, 2009

the kinda' effect they use a lot in pop and punkrock records.what's it called and how do i get it.i tried recording harmony vocals seperately but it did not sound anywhere near.

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Feb 07, 2009 06:53 am

It's either a vocalist that can sing well or some sort of harmonization processor.

I tune down down...
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Since: Jun 11, 2007


Feb 07, 2009 12:47 pm

Autotune the crap out of it. I think that's what you are talking about.

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Feb 07, 2009 08:53 pm

its like 2 harmonized guitar parts.

sing on key have the exact same inflections.

it funny with recording, evryone thinks they are hot **** till they record either their instruments, or their voices, and they realize they suck.
(me included)
ya gotta work to make it better.
simple as that.

sure what you metion has effects on it, but as they say, a polished turd, is only that.

no effects can change it.
poo is poo, and so on and so forth.

Czar of Midi
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Feb 08, 2009 05:21 pm

Punk Rock you will rarely if ever find an autotune or a harmonizer used for the vocal's. If there is a vocal harmony it will be a true vocal harmony.

Pop on the other hand, indeed it could easily be autotune and the liberal use of a harmonizer. But odd's are good they are simply re-tuning the pitch of a harmonty track as well.

Mans reach exceeds his grasp
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Feb 08, 2009 06:53 pm

What most people don't realize is that pop records are not one take wonders. The producers of these albums slave the artist into take after take of different harmonies, and different takes to get the feeling they're after. It's hit or miss for them; the only difference is that they know the music theory in such depth that they only rely on the artist performance.

For most of us, we're lost trying hit or miss patterns to match our original vocal patterns. Then we're hit or miss on other factors, like how many takes to keep, what effects to put on what tracks, and so on and so on. It's really an experiment until you find a mix that works for your vocals.

I.E. listen to The Fray; predominantly one vocal- the lead. Little to no background, because his vocal fills the landscape. Most other bands are doubled up, meaning to takes layered to fill the landscape, let alone the 5 or 6 other takes you hear on the chorus'.

Just experiment. There's no real equation to it.

Czar of Midi
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Feb 08, 2009 08:10 pm

I'll back Keith up 100% on that bit of wisdom. Pop music today has far too much technical input and far too little personal input.

If you want to hear what personal input sounds like go here www.myspace.com/keithwarrenmusic and listen to tracks 5 and 6.

Keith has some music that still has personality and human feeling to it. Its not your typical pop stuff at all. But you can understand what we mean about putting something besides a machine into your music.

giv me gear
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Feb 09, 2009 08:15 pm

is there a good harmonizing software available?

Czar of Midi
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Feb 09, 2009 09:44 pm

Melodyne.

I tune down down...
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Feb 10, 2009 01:10 am

Hey Noize... Have you heard about the DNA software that Melodyne is SUPPOSED to release sometime. It SUPPOSED to be able to change individual notes with in a chord without shift the whole chord. :(

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Feb 10, 2009 01:49 am

hey i have seen a demo of this, where a guy seperated a note from a chord.(guitar)

same thing?
it looks exactly like melodyne.

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Feb 10, 2009 03:06 am

if possible for you, i'd just keep trying. i never want to use any sort of autotuner on my vocals at all. it makes me feel dirty!

just try all day, really learn the part, and then nail it. it might take a day. but if you get it, you'll be proud

Czar of Turd Polish
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Feb 10, 2009 11:33 am

Perfectly harmonized vocal = Perfectly sung vocal :)

I would use melodyne to create some crazy harmonies that I have no other way to obtain (choir), but would not rely on it to "make" my main vocal track.

I tune down down...
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Feb 10, 2009 03:41 pm

I agree. But, the idea of rearranging notes in a chord are just insane!

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Feb 14, 2009 01:43 am

can i say..."eventide" if you must use!!!!

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