Jan 15, 2009 09:35 pm I'll get back to this tomorrow.
Recording an acoustic demo for a band... looking for advice
Posted on Jan 15, 2009 03:11 pm
RockWood610
John
Member Since: May 06, 2007
Hey fellas,
I've posted her several times, gotten A LOT of great help and feedback, and looking for some more help.
I have been pre-prudction steps on a metal recording for my personal band, but had to take an un-wanted break from it. So I started recording an accoustic demo for a band who needs a disc to submit to the local casinos to get gigs.
I won't go through all my pc setup, because it runs great and all that happy crap.
I have a Presonus Inspire 1394 unit. It has 2 XLR inputs, and 2 1/4 inputs. Headphone/Monitor outputs.
I have just a simple home studio type setup for small demos/video projects, so my monitors are a small set of active Samson 40as. I run Acid Pro 6/testing Acid 7 for my DAWS.
Now, for this particulre project, I have anywhere between 3 to 5 guitar tracks, and 4 to 6 vocal tracks.
I am using a MXL v63m condesor mic for the recording. I don't really have a 'sound booth' for recording. My studio is setup in an extra room in my house with nothing but music related gear in it. So its probably not isolated to great, but it seems to be ok for a good demo. I maybe wrong, as I am still training my ears on this stuff.
I like the way the MXL it sounds on the acoutsic guitars, and so do my 'clients' if you will in the band. But if this mic shouldn't be used, and I should be looking at an alternative one, please tell me. My mic locker doesn't have much in it as I am a broke poor bastard who just bought a house. I own the MXL condensor, a shure beta 57a, and an SM 57.
I have a large collection of plugins, many from Waves (a friend of mine is a local radio station owner... I get lots of free goodies). So I am pretty sure I have MANY plugins for mixing and mastering, just not sure how to do a lot of ir properly.
So far to start off, we laid down some guitar tracks. I set all the guitar levels through the Presonus unit so I got the loudest input without peaking. I didn't use any compression or anything going in for the tracking, just straight mic to Inspire to Acid Pro. Should I have added or done something differently?
Either way, the mic was placed about 4 to 8 inches from the guitar while recording. We recorded a couple tracks and not much has been done to the mix yet excpet a couple experimental panning and I added a Waves L1 for a small volume boost for this sample track.
I was hoping from some feedback from some of you on how it sounds thus far, and how much doctoring it may need, plus any tidbits I may consider.
Thanks in advance. I have had issues in the past with the flash play button working here, and my links showing up. So I'll post the link in a couple of forms in case the issue still happens. Just take out all the spaces between the '.' and the '/' in the second posted link.
Here is the MP3 link:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/yoursobad.mp3
http:// www. buttonlock. net/ studio/ audio/ yoursobad.mp3
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/yoursobad.mp3
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Jan 15, 2009 09:35 pm I'll get back to this tomorrow.
Jan 16, 2009 12:45 pm I think it sounds pretty good... fine through the crap speakers and a bit boomy in the monitors.
I would boost the mids and the highs... mid (300hz-5000hz) by about 7db... and everything above that by about 3db.
Jan 16, 2009 02:47 pm Sounds GREAT to me! I'd kill to get that acoustic guitar sound! Whatever you did, keep doin' it.
Jan 16, 2009 07:08 pm Um ya, that sounds pretty good as Jim stated.
I think you got a very clear and clean sound on this indeed. It sounds like the MXL worked out just fine to me.
I do agree it could use a maybe a pinch more sparkle (upper mids and lower high) but that could simply be personal taste as well.
It seemed to capture the body low e3nd of the guitar very well. Nice full tone for sure.
Approx. were did you place the mic for the recording? A simple move of the mic might capture that tiny bit more high end to add sparkle.
Jan 17, 2009 09:40 am Hey guys,
Wow... thanks a lot for the feedback. I know it sounded decent to me and the clients I recorded it for, but after some positive feedback from more experienced engineers I feel much more confident.
The odd thing is, I have not really applied anything to this. Some slight panning when there is 2 guitars playing, boosted the overall volume with a Waves L1, and that was about it.
As far as where I placed the mic, like I said... I am not in the proper room for micing anything. So I did a bit of spot micing. Player was sitting in a chair, and the mic was just about in front of the acoustic guitars center hole and about 4 to 6 inches away.
They added a bass track last night. I will be posting a new updated sample of that as well, as I am a little curious as to how that sounds to you guys. The bass player didn't have an acoustic bass, so he went with an electric bass going from a sonic maximizer to his bass head. Direct from the bass head to the the presonus input through XLR. Is this a bad move? It didnt sound horrible, but like I said... a new sample will be posted soon.
Where I start to get lost is the EQ and the jargen that goes with it. Like when you say 'I would boost the mids and the highs... mid (300hz-5000hz) by about 7db... and everything above that by about 3d' I am totally lost. As Noize probably already knows from helping me get my metal band's recording started, I am lacking much knowledge on the whole EQ, compression ect items.
I have a built EQ for Sony Acid from Sony, then several Waves plugins and many are EQs. I have no idea witch ones to use, if there is going to be a drastic difference between them, ect.
Any ideas on what I could read, look at to start picking up this things? I'm somewhat of a musician so I know what sounds good... its playing the engineer role and getting there that I'm confused on...
Jan 17, 2009 10:19 pm With the mic you used I would maybe give a try placing the mic about 6 to 8 inches out front of the guitar, but have it more toward the neck instead of right in front of the sound hole. But face it angled toward the sound hole. That should give a little more brightness from the strings while still retaining a good deal of the body coming from the sound hole.
This may help avoid having to use any EQ at all.
The object is to get as good a sound as you can without having to EQ at all. But in the event of absolutely needing the EQ you can try adding a very slight boost of maybe 2 or 3 dB in the 800 to 1000 hz range. A little experimenting will tell exactly were to place the mic. Then as stated you can give a tiny boost if it is really needed.
But from the sound of it you are so very close to getting a really good sound just as it is by simply placing the mic a little differently.
Jan 18, 2009 01:16 am As always guys, thanks again for all the replies.
Noize, Thanks for the tip. I have a Home recording for Dummies book that also states that the smallest move of the mic can effect the sound. When I set the guys up to record and played back the first track, they didn't want it touched. They were happy with it. So thats where it stayed. But I'll keep in mind for next time.
Now, I'm still confused on the EQ thing. But until it comes to mix down time after everything is recorded, I'll worry about that later.
I'm not sure if you saw it in the above post, but the bass player has an electric bass instead of accoustic. What he wanted to do was go from the electric bass to a sonic maximizer, to a bass head, and from the bass head's XLR out to the Presonus pre. So thats what we did.
I had a terrible time setting a good level. The volume was rockin' for sure, and the Presonus on screen mixer slider was down quite a bit. I had him play a few times, and on higher G notes, he was peaking. So I turned down a little bit, and then put a slight limiter on him to prevent the peaking. But I am not sure if that was the proper thing to do. He says it sounds ok, and is hoping the EQing will fix him up a bit.
The only thing is, Idk if it sounds to 'farty' or distorted, as I have very little expirience with bass itself. So, below I've posted the song with the bass track in, and a small sample track of the bass alone. The track has nothing on it at all. Just raw track. And please keep in mind, he played with a pick.
Full Song w/Bass mixed (roughly):
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/yoursobadwbass.mp3
Bass Only Sample:
www.buttonlock.net/studio...badbasssamp.mp3
Any and all feedback would rock.
Jan 18, 2009 03:53 pm The bass only sounds pretty good for being picked. It doesn't have a really harsh pick attack at all. In the mix it sounds like it blends right in and is part of the acoustic piece, not an electric trying to fit in with the acoustic guitar's. So on the note it sounds pretty dang good in the mix to me.
The only worry will be if he wants to hear more of the pick attack on it. For the type of piece it is, I personally don't think hearing a lot of pick attack or string click is good for that song, it will take away from the acoustic guitars for sure.
Jan 18, 2009 05:24 pm As always, thanks for the reply noize. I was a little concerned about the bass track in the mix. Seemed a bit rockin' to loud on my surround's sub in the living room. I'll have to play around with it a bit.
I only have a small set of studio monitors (samson Resolv 40a actives to be exact), and the low end in them is pretty much non existant I think as far as needing to hear for proper mixing. Should I also use a good pair of headphones for a second source? These are the headphones I currently have available:
pro-audio.musiciansfriend...ones?sku=244501
Now, after the instrument tracking, I move onto vocals. The guys I am recording are very impressed with the MXL and want to use it for thier vocal tracks.
Here is where my confidence is going to start to sink. How much am I going to have to worry about compression? Or should I use Volume envelopes in any major vocal passages with different volumes? And how much EQin do I have te pleasure of learning? Like I stated before... I am not in any good room by far.
Jan 19, 2009 04:58 pm Ya, I would cross check the mix in the phones as well. That might help you hear the bottom end a bit more as it really is.
Those should do for what you need. It doesn't always take the mos expensive pair to hear the bottom end.
Ya, that MXL is a pretty decent all around.
I honestly would only worry about compression if the singer('s) cannot keep a good level. Find the sweet spot and you can always give it a touch later in the mix, either as stated with a bit of automation or a tad of compression.
The EQ, well from the way the acoustic turned out I wouldn't get too worried about it yet. Wait until the tracking is done to decide if the room was all that bad or not.
Jan 19, 2009 05:52 pm The guys I am working with are always playing out on weekends and have been in and out of studios a lot. So I don't think the compression will be needed much.
I'll post some more updated tracks when we get more done. They will be be in and out a couple more times this week.
Thanks again for all the help noize. The metal sessions for my band will pick back up soon. Part of the agreement with these accoustic recordings with these guys was I;d record them a disc for free if we could use the drummers Roland accoustic triggers on our project :)
Jan 20, 2009 06:57 pm Cool, that will make things much easier for sure.
And double cool on bartering to use the Roland kit. I simply love having mine and never regret investing in it.
Jan 21, 2009 03:34 am Ok, so we got some vocal tracks recorded on this acoustic demo last night.
I've posted 3 mp3 samples. I've come into a small noticable delema.
The singer on this track gets crazy loud towards the end of the song. I set a good level for him for the majority of the song, but at the end he sings a higher louder part. I have no compressor going into my presonus pre amp. I didn't think to try the presonus limiter at all (if I should consider that an option).
What I had him do was sing about 4 inches from the pop filter (using the MXL mic we used on the guitars). But at the end, he was peaking the hell out of the mic input. So I told him to back off the mic quite a bit. Well, he got back as far as he could before it stopped peaking, and there is a huge noticable difference in the track because of it.
The 1st track is him up close and the second is where he backed off. Please keep in mind, nothing has been done to these. These are straight raw tracks. No eq, compression, nothing. I would like feedback on how they sound and what we could think about doing differently. I also posted a VERY ROUGH mix with the vocals added to the song in the 3rd link. I did put a cheap pre set compressor on the vocals in the full mix version. Let me know what you guys think please!
Close vocal:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/vocal1.mp3
Backed off vocal:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/vocal2.mp3
Rough full mix with cheap pre set compression on vocals (nothing else added):
www.buttonlock.net/studio...ownroughvox.mp3
Jan 21, 2009 11:50 am I think it sounds good, but Noize is spot on about the mic right in front of the hole. Positioned in front of the 12th fret marker yet angled towards the hole a tad keeps your low ends but gives a little sparkle.
I have a cheap\shitty 100$ acoustic and if I mic the sound hole I get nothing but boom. Recording a less than stellar acoustic guitar will sure as heck teach you a lesson in mic placement :)
Jan 21, 2009 12:49 pm Thanks Tripps. I'll keep it in mind for next run. Right now, they are pretty happy with the acoustic sound, so I'm going to keep it the same for this recording. This is by far the best sounding recording I've done yet. I've seem to come a long way from the first recording I played back yesterday hahaha.
Did you get to hear my two mic samples with one being where the singer had to step back away from peaking the input? I need some suggestions on that situation.
Also, the vocals when in the mix sound clean, but they don't have the feel I would like to get out of them. They sound pretty dry, and I'm not sure if I should learn to properly compress, add verbs, or what. But they just don't seem to be blending in with the guitars the way I would like them to for the more proffesional sound. I tried to be a perfectionist as much as possible... kinda an anil quirk of myself I guess :)
Jan 21, 2009 02:10 pm I have not listened yet (and can't at work) but if a vocal is sitting on top of the mix try some verb. I would use a small vocal plate or if that's too much a small room verb.
Just an FYI, songs posted on HRC are not blocked.
Jan 21, 2009 02:49 pm Ok its cool. Just tell me what you think could help when you get a chance to listen. I may leave it that way if the guys ask me to, but in a way I think it could sound better.
And what do you mean by songs on HRC are not blocked?
Jan 21, 2009 03:45 pm I work at a government site, just about everything is blocked. For some reason they do not block mp3 streaming from HRC. I can listen to songs posted on this site, that is all.
Jan 22, 2009 08:42 pm It'll be Saturday before i can get at this. But I'll give em a listen and let ya know.
Jan 24, 2009 06:43 pm OK, finally got a chance to listen to them.
If I were doing the mixing I would maybe try and make a blend of the further and close mic. But as for the louder bit. You can set a limiter on it in software as well or simply automate a volume fade for the loud parts.
Reverb, yes that will help settle the vocal into the mix a bit and make it blend easier. ON the rough mix I didn't notice any need for any specific EQ as of yet. It sounded pretty good for a rough mix for sure. Yes, a bit dry yet but that will come with adding a bit of verb amd what have you to blend it all.
Honestly sounding pretty decent in rough form for sure.
Jan 24, 2009 07:05 pm Thanks again Noize. Got some rough finals I guess you could call them. Added a touch a verb to the vocals and they recorded some backing vocals and what not. The versions they have heard recently they loved, so hopefuly if there is anything that sticks out to you, I can make it even better.
As expected, the mp3 versions are cutting quality a little, but check 'em out when you can, and get back to me...
Cover song - Leroy Brown:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/leroybrown.mp3
Cover Song - Folsom Prison Blues:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/prisonblues.mp3
Cover Song - You're So Bad:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/yoursobad.mp3
Original Written By Them - The Showdown:
www.buttonlock.net/studio/audio/theshowdown.mp3
Jan 24, 2009 09:52 pm Sweet, I'll try and catch up with the newer ones tomorrow then.
Jan 25, 2009 06:35 pm Wow, these all ended up really good. The bit of reverb is just perfect if you ask me. It is just enough and is working very well to place the vocal's in the mix very well. The use of the far mic seems to have worked for the ending of The Showdown and really gives it a cool feel.
I guess I would call them done if the band is happy with them as well. But to my ears they are sounding well done for sure. The guitars sound big and full and there is just enough top end on them now for that bit of sparkle without cutting into the vocal sound.
Very well done indeed. I really like The Showdown as well, you can pass that along if you like.
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And the covers were actually very cool as well by the way.
Jan 25, 2009 07:53 pm As always, thanks again Noize!
I thought they sounded great as well. I'll be sure to pass on that comment about The Showdown.
I was pretty happy with the ending mix. Although, as for the mastering process, I have not much expirience with it. I know with these being acoustic tracks, it will be a bit easier to do then a full band mix. But I still wanted a good punch added to this instead of just scraping by with a decent final.
I looked at the help page on here about mastering. www.har-bal.com/index.php?/mastering-tutorial.php
I don't have the har-bal setup, but I do have all the waves plugins that where used in that tutorial. I still no nothing about EQ plugins and how they work really, but I played around with the EQ band compressor, and got a bit more punch and volume out of the tracks.
I'm not currently at my studio pc, but here is what I did. Please let me know if this process sounds like a good move.
I was just using the Waves L2 limiter for my 'mastering'. Nothing more. And I was doing all the mastering inside acid.
Instead of doing it that way, I went into Acid, took the L2 off the master channel and played each song all the way through. I ajusted the master volume so that there is never any peaking in the master. After that, I render it into a single stero file.
Then, I went into Sound Forge, added the band compressor that the tutorial showed, played around with it and got a more punchy mix and the bass track was more even out. I then added the L2 to the chain, and ajusted the threshhold and put the cieling to -0.1. It sounded much more brighter, louder, and everything seemed to be evened out.
Was this a good move? I know you won't know 100% for sure until I posted a final, but does it sound like a good move?
Jan 25, 2009 08:14 pm Well, exporting a 2 track mix is always a good idea. Then using Sound Forge which is a dedicated 2 track editor is also another good idea although doing it in Acid with a 2 track file would work as well. But the tools in SF are much better and easier to navigate the file.
The chain you used sounds perfect for the type of music it is. And yes, the ears are always the best judge.
Glad to hear you liked the tutorial on the Har-Bal site as well. Many find it helpful.
Jan 26, 2009 12:57 am Ok, here is a mp3 of the Leroy Brown track after i used that chain.
www.buttonlock.net/studio...brownmaster.mp3
Would I use the same type of chain in my metal band's setup? The tracking for that with the roland gear is schedule to start in about 14 hours form this post.
Jan 26, 2009 05:13 pm Yep, that seems to be working.
I was actually kickin back and kinda rockin to this one. Pass on compliments on the harmonies on this one as well.
But back to your mix. My personal taste would be to add the tiniest bit of sparkle to the top end.
But if the band is liking it as is, don't mess with it. If you would like to experiment though try giving the very smallest boost at about 5k or so with a fairly narrow Q. See if that gives it a tiny bit more shine in the vocals and the guitar.
But as I said.
If the band is liking the current mix then for sure leave it be for their taste. But making an alternate mix for them to check out isn't a bad idea either.
Jan 26, 2009 06:53 pm I'd totaly be up for playing around with another mix, but again... I know nothing about EQ plugins and the jargen that go with them. If you could point me in a direction of a video or help guide like the mastering one, and maybe help me out there, I'd be all about it.
Jan 26, 2009 09:12 pm Which version of Sound Forge do you have? I might be able to do a few screen captures. And as well simply put a tweak on the mp3 just to get an idea of exactly were it would work best. Then I can save it as a preset and put it up for you to download. That is if we have the same version and the same pluggin.
so let me know exactly which plug it is as well. It should have a generic name if it is one of the standard ones.
Jan 27, 2009 12:05 am I may have to mess with the mix anyways. They want to add a tamborine into the mix. What would you suggest as far as recording that? My MXL should be good for it, but I have never record a tambo before. Wasn't sure what I should look for in the tracking process or what should listen for.
I currently have Sound Forge 8 installed, but I also have 9 that I can install. The last time I had 9, it didn't run right with a lack of update but I remember I updated it and the issue I had went away. So I have versions 8 and 9 to work with.
Thanks again for the help. The gernic Sony plugins are all the same on the latest 2 versions of most thier software, plus I have pretty much all the major Waves EQ plugins.
Jan 27, 2009 08:04 pm Yep, you can use the MXL for sure. Just find a suitable spot for it to pick up the tambo wherever he is going to be shaking it. I usually set it up about waste high or just s smidgen higher and then let the player just do his thing and let the natural movement of it fade it in and out.
A couple of takes and you or he will figure it out.
Cool on the SF thing. I'll double check on what I am using for plug's in there as well. I haven't used the standard plug's for so long.
Jan 28, 2009 03:51 am Alright awesome. I'm looking forward to the sound forge shots.
I got my Line6 UX2 in on Monday. I was really impressed with it as far as the mic pre amps go. I knew how the guitar portions worked from have the GX unit.
The Gearbox setup has vocal presets. One of them sounds pretty much the same as the Presonus setup I have. The preset is labled "Basic Dry" or something to that effect. The thing I noticed is, there is usualy a compression setup on each vocal preset. And they all sound tight as hell. I could be singing, screaming, low whispers... whatever and the sound is bright and crisp withouth the annoying quick volume fads up and down between the different loudness in the vocals.
I am assuming this would be called a 'pre compression' and I was wondering if I used it, would I need to do any post compression in the mixes? Because it sound very nice and even to me. I tried some rough vocals on our metal project and it was a nice smooth travk volume wise. Should we get in the habbit of using it?
Jan 28, 2009 06:58 pm Ya, I tweak the compressor or remove it depending on what I'm using the pre for myself. But I never leave the presets alone, I end up messing with them more often then not.
Jan 29, 2009 02:48 pm I'll keep this in mind. When it comes down to recording my vocals, I'll go into more details about it.
Mean while, I have some in reference masters on this acoustic deal done. I would like to post uncompressed wavs, but I'm not sure how faster your connection is and if its really that big of a difference then a high quality mp3 file. What would you recommend? I'll be able to post them tonight.
They want the master by Saturday, so if you read this today/tonight then I'll post the best links and hopefuly you can get them by tomorrow so I can do any tweaks if needed. But they may like it as is with it being just a demo.
Jan 29, 2009 08:30 pm I have a T-1 here, so size is not a problem to grab here.
Problem is though I will be home about 2:30 tomorrow afternoon. But am camping this weekend and we leave around 5:30. That central time by the way.
An yes, camping in the snow. I'm nuts!
But if a track is available by 2:45 central time tomorrow to listen to I can get at it before I leave.
Jan 29, 2009 10:21 pm Ok, your only one hour behind me. I'm in the eastern time zone. Here are the WAV links.
www.buttonlock.net/studio/eea/leroybrown.wav
www.buttonlock.net/studio/eea/prisonblues.wav
www.buttonlock.net/studio/eea/theshowdown.wav
www.buttonlock.net/studio/eea/yoursobad.wav
Let me know what you think. They sound pretty decent to me.
Jan 30, 2009 03:50 pm Got em, listening in a minute.
Jan 30, 2009 04:35 pm I actualy had a mixer setting bypassed on my on screen mixer, witch was causing distortion when I was touching up those masters. I just re did them, won't have time to re-up them for you now, but I took the mixer settings off and relized I wasn't getting distortion on the actual mix, it just sounded that way dude to the mixer setting.
So the new ones are a bit more punchy and louder.
Jan 30, 2009 04:37 pm DUDE!!! Your so Bad. That tambourine you were worried about fits right in there. Its bright and jumps out nicely but still has a depth in the placement. The vocals are sweet, especially the harmonies. The guitar's sound big and full, lotsa bottom and you got the brightness needed to pull it together in there. It sounds like a couple dudes sitting around a couple of mic's and just doing it live. And that's what that song should sound like from the way they are performing it. I bummed though as it stopped at 2:25 and my jaw dropped as I still wanted to hear the rest.
Anyway, the original sounds good as well. It all fits together pretty well. Leroy Brown rocks as well. The tambo once again takes a spot in that one to keep the beat going.
I think they should be good to go especially for a demo. The tune really get the point across as to what they sound like for sure.
If you care to, I'd love to get the full version of Your so Bad. The file was 52.7 meg so I'm not sure what happened. I pulled a DL twice and the second result was still cut at 2:25.
Anyway, your off to the races with these. Nicely done indeed. You really got the best out of what you have there for sure.
Jan 30, 2009 04:41 pm Wow! Thanks a lot man. I just pretty much play around with the mix until it sounds like a real produced CD... and I asked the dudes where thier place was on stage so I got the panning and what not correct.
Thanks a lot man on the props. Like I said, I got newer masters done. That plugin that is shown in the master tutorial is a bit confusing, but apparently I can get it to work ok... hahah.
I hope to re-upload the more punshy ones soon. I hope they are even better then these ones. Thanks again for all your help Noize. Althjough the metal project we were doing for my band is probably going to be cancelled. We just can't get the triggers to do rolls and what not correctly... and we have spent hours playing with settings... its just not coming together, and I don't have the money for a 3 to 6 grand Roland kit.
Jan 30, 2009 05:00 pm Ya, I'll be camping until Sunday but I'll be back Sunday afternoon. I hope they like em, I'm sure they will.
Feb 01, 2009 10:55 am Hey noize. I got some new finals done, but would rather not post them here until the guys hear them. If you want, I can e-mail links or whatever.
I did a slight re-mixed The Showdown and Your So Bad a bit. It seemed that the singer's vocals on that one where not as clean as the singer's on Prison Blues and Leroy. So I bumped the EQ justa tad. Seems more clean now.
Also, I finally sat down (for 3 hours) Friday night and really took apart the settings on the DM5 with these triggers. We were up and running yesterday with our drum tracks. Sounds great so far, and my drummer is loving the responses from the triggers.
Remember the issue I was having with the audio waves not looking like they were dead on with the play back in Acid?
I know now that it has something to do with the 'click track' settings in Acid. See, the acoustic stuff I did for these guys where with a click, but the tempo stays the same in each song. Our metal stuff however, has at least 4 to 7 tempo changes.
It appears that if there is a tempo change, thats when they look like they are off with the play back. And if I delete the tempo change, then the playback doesn't play at the right speed It either lags or plays faster depending on how slow or fast our tempo was.
Say for example, the current song we tracked has 4 or 5 tempo switches. One of the tempos we have set at 200bpm and its set to a 1/4 count. When I playback without touching the tempo it sounds great. If I delete that tempo, it goes back to Acid's standard 120bpm and the song lags in playback. The picthes don't change, just the playback speed.
Does this strike any possible fixes for you?
Feb 01, 2009 01:36 pm RockWood, ya you can email the links if you like, that would be cool.
I'll ask a buddy of mine who uses Acid a lot if he has ever had issues like that as well. I can't think of anything to blame right off the top of my head either on that.
But ya, deleting the tempo change will mess things up for sure. I know in Sonar I switch it on to follow tempo and pitch change. I wonder if there is a switch in Acid that is for the same type of thing?
Feb 01, 2009 02:16 pm Ok cool. Thanks a lot. I would love to be able to just use my eyes for editing. Thats my stronger poitn as I do a lot of video editing as well.
I'll send you the links for those songs right now, so you can check em out.
Also, for my metal band's recordings I am shooting for a certain sound in my vocals. Not the tone or my style persay, but the overal final effect on the vocals. A few bands I listen to have certain vocal effects on thier singing/screaming and I kind of want to dublicate it. If I post a sample or two of the type of effects I am going for, would you (or anyone else reading) be able to give me a good reference on what I would have to do to get there?
Feb 01, 2009 08:44 pm We can certainly give it a shot.
And I got yer email. Just started getting caught up while still watching the super bowl.
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