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Posted on Oct 02, 2008 12:58 am
fortymile
Member Since: Jan 18, 2003
does anyone have a song they want analyzed in terms of theory?
i'm kind of bored. i'm looking for new freelance gigs and there's nothing really to do right now.
if any of you have a song you're not sure about--something bothers you about it or you think it could be better and you don't know why you have the feeling--maybe it might help to take it apart in a comprehensive way. i kind of want to see what is possible as far as a straight analysis of a single song. could look at the chords, the melody, how in-key the whole thing is or if there are departures, whether chord substitutions are possible or would help, how close the song comes to 'the golden mean' in terms of its flow and its climaxes and high points and content, things like that. this last thing is something i kind of want to think about. i don't know how to quantify such a thing, but there are a few shadowy ideas that could be explored there maybe.
just an idea. might be fun. and i just kind of want to see what's possible, if anything. might turn out to be nothing much, but who knows.
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 02, 2008 09:27 pm I've got nothing on a personal note at the moment. But I have a client that I'm just finishing some stuff on and I'll ask if he'd be willing to let me shoot it over for you to dwell on.
I'll let you know a bit later or tomorrow morning.
Oh ya, do you speak Chinese? Most of the lyric's are Chinese.
Oct 02, 2008 11:37 pm that's the strangest offhanded question i've heard in a while. haha, no i don't speak chinese.
i was hoping i could analyze something from someone i sort of know, though. cause chances are it won't be all props.
NightcapVeni, MIDI, ViciMember
Since: Jul 02, 2008
Oct 02, 2008 11:39 pm Quote:
i'm kind of bored.
What about organizing your computer files??? ;-)
Oct 03, 2008 12:06 am pfft if only
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 03, 2008 05:41 am dude if only i had some of our new stuff recorded, you'd have a field day.
in a good way.
some of the stuff is technically incorrect, but it so aboslutley works.
Oct 03, 2008 07:49 am that would be fun to analyze! if stuff sounds good, it works. sometimes stuff sounds bad and doesn't work. i assume your stuff actually works and is just different or is out there in the outer realms of theory where you just have to connect the dots and come up with a reason for why it works.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Oct 03, 2008 10:52 am well yeah i guess, if it works then there has to be a reason for it, me and the other guitarist often have many beers and discuss at length as to how the hell we came up with certain stuff and how it ends up.
its nothing spectacular or out there on purpose, but im told it breaks so many rules in respect to theory.
i dont know much about theory at all except my own, and what can and cant be done.
hope to have some stuff up soon.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Oct 03, 2008 11:01 am Hey forty, I really don't know any theory so any of our stuff is sure to break the rules so to speak.
Hangin' On is in my profile if you want to check it out. The rest of our stuff can be found at TheLondonProject.ca
Cheers,
Lonnie
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Oct 03, 2008 11:23 am Your welcome to disect any of mine if you'd like.
Dan
Oct 03, 2008 05:58 pm beerhunter, while making coffee this morning, i put your song on in the background and detected nothing at first listen that would be construed to break any theory rules. i'm a little out of practice with my interval identification unless i have a guitar nearby (but i don't, because i'm waking up and drinking coffee still), but i think a chord analysis would find maybe just one non-diatonic chord--the bIII. but the bIII is one of the most common non-diatonic chords, from the blues scale, and so i consider it--along with the bVII and a few others--to be a part of the normal songwriter's chord kit.
i heard an in-key, harmonious song. the proportions and shape of the song feel right too. the melody too. the song reminded me in some ways of wonderwall by oasis. so i thought it hits all the right marks if the goal is to be hummable and in proportion.
this is not what i was talking about doing, though. i somehow want to take something apart in detail, a song with some weird stuff in it and which maybe misses opportunities in the melody or the chords or is somehow 'shaped wrong.' but your song is archetypal, and you can't go wrong with archetypal.
Oct 03, 2008 06:27 pm actually, i would have made a mistake there, i think in terms of numbering the chords. what are the chords for the verse?
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Oct 03, 2008 06:50 pm verse is just Am, C, G, D. Tuned to Eb.
That song is structured pretty basic really. Our song, I Know She Understands breaks a lot of rules though including no vocals in the chorus..
<a href="#" onclick="window.open('www.mixposure.com/index.p...s,height=210'); return false;">I Know She Understands</a>
That link although all screwed up still works just not directly to the song. You would have to pick it from the list.
Thanks forty for any input. Awesome of you to do this.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 03, 2008 09:11 pm Yep, I knew that would seem odd asking that. But ya never know, I work with a guy who speaks some Cantonese. And he has never been to Asia at all. Just learned it on a whim I guess.
