need help with vocal effect

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Member Since: Jun 03, 2008

you kno when you here alot of rappers
and there vocals sound like there doubled?

im still tryin to figure out how to make mine sound that like
i copy the same wav file and then export it underneath so theres 2 playing at the same time and then i turn the pitch up on just one
but it still has a nasty rumble noise to it?
how do i fix that

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Since: Apr 11, 2004

Sep 30, 2008 03:53 pm

'Rumble' as in bass rumble ? You could eq it out by rolling off the bass frequencies from, say 80htz-down .

Also, since this is for rap tracks, you may want to play with the pan on those duped tracks... have them come from slightly/drastically different places in the sterio field . That may help open the piece up a bit .

Since: Jun 03, 2008

Sep 30, 2008 03:58 pm

alright cool ill try that

and like you kno how ozzy uses a doubler effect.. or something like that
like a pitch shifter
could i use one of the sound i want also?

Prince CZAR-ming
Since: Apr 08, 2004

Sep 30, 2008 04:42 pm

You can nudge the second track back a little, like 3 ms or so, that would give a teeny echo effect, to which I think Ozzy does. I'm not sure of the amount, you'd have to play with it.

Also, you can put a chorus on the second one, and drop the volume a little. Or, move them around like Hue said.

There should be some pitch changing VSTs or DX effects that will shift pitch down a few cents or so. That should mix it up a bit as well.

Depending on how involved you want to get, you could set up sends from your main track to a secondary track, and add effects and such to the second track. this way you'll have the main track sending it's own un-changed signal, but you'll have control over the second track. this way you don't have to have 2 wav files, just one.

No biggy, really, it just keeps your files neat and tidy.

Czar of Turd Polish
Since: Jun 20, 2006

Sep 30, 2008 04:54 pm

Best way is to perform it twice but this requires two 99% identical takes. Nudging and fx can simulate as stated above.

Since: Jun 03, 2008

Oct 01, 2008 11:56 pm

ive been doing them twice n everything
but my vocals are more rumbly like dmx...
so like do i just turn the bass down on the EQ for the one or what do i do?

I am not a crook's head
Since: Mar 14, 2003

Oct 02, 2008 11:48 am

You may be too close to the microphone when recording. Most mics will emphasize the bass frequencies when you sing too close to them. It's called "proximity effect". Then when you double up your tracks, you're stacking those over-emphasized bass frequencies up.

If you're using a dynamic mic, try backing off to at least 6" away.

If you're using a condensor mic, try backing off to at least 12" away and see if the problem persists.

Since: Aug 10, 2007

Oct 11, 2008 12:19 am

by doubling the tracks with the same vocal your only making it louder..You have to get a few good takes and maybe add a chorus effect...

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