Best way to make a single vocal track sound wide?

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Member Since: Aug 29, 2008

I record alot of rap vocals and Im looking to find out how to make a single vocal track for a verse sound wide and have the life of industry produced records. Im using Nuendo for tracking, a Rode K2 mic, a motu 896, and I have a tube "emulator" hooked up to the mic signal

Currently Im recording 2 tracks for the verse, and panning them left and right equally (how far depends on the space the music allows). I Always add reverb, experiemnt in delay, etc. It sounds wide and nice but because the entire verse is layered, it looses a little clarity and doesnt have that crystal clear 1 layer sound songs on the radio do.

The music recorded on is always a stereo wav file of a pre-mixed beat so I dont have the music tracked out to build around the vocals.

go to www.myspace.com/cmaja to hear a sample of my latest mix "swag through the roof" for reference.

Thanks alot

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Since: Jun 11, 2007


Aug 29, 2008 11:22 am

I have this thing called an OmniTope or something like that. (Haven't used it in a while.) But, it's a spatial plug-in. I used it on guitars once and awhile. So, I'm sure with the right dynamic tools, it work okay with vocals.

Any spatial element tool can be used to "widen" a track. But, what I prefer for vocals is just using a stereo reverb while panning it's track a little one way, and then the orginal track a little the other and it seems to fatten it up some.


EDIT:

I'm not much into rap/r&b... But your track sounds nice, man. I'd actually listen to it from time to time. Ha.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Aug 29, 2008 12:33 pm

I will use a 10-15% wet delay on a single vocal track, both left and right channels delayed maybe 9ms (-9ms for one, 9ms for the other). I then add a small vocal plate verb.

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Aug 29, 2008 12:47 pm

I usually use 3 tracks for the vox. Left and right as you do with verb and such but I use the third track dry and right down the middle. The center track will help with clarity.

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Sep 05, 2008 12:26 am

Try a chorus

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Sep 05, 2008 10:35 am

Some sort of modulated or manually shifted delay (or else you're going to have rather nasty phase issues). You could mult it out, make a left and a right, go a few cents up on one, a few cents down on the other and delay them several ms (both the same, or you're going to have the Haas Effect creeping up on you quickly) in relation to the center.

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Since: Dec 26, 2007


Sep 10, 2008 04:07 am

How i do it.
- have 3 good takes
- pan 2 L/R about 45 have these on a slightly lower volume.
- eq then add delay and reverb on the panned vocals
- have the main vocal dead center with more volume than the panned ones. eq,delay, reverb and then compress it
- chop the panned ones so that they only enter when its a punchline to give more emphasis.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Sep 10, 2008 01:20 pm

Well double\triple tracking a vocal is the best imo, but he did ask for tricks to make a "singal" vocal take sound wide.

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