Aug 26, 2008 08:46 pm badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html
awsome guitar micing thread!!
Posted on Aug 26, 2008 08:45 pm
Dematrix
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Member Since: Nov 27, 2007
im going to post an absolutley awsome thread on micing up for heavy guitars, in check it out. at times its very techincal and the guy that wrote it made me laugh like i havent laughed in long time. He is quite mad.
The thread is accompanied by loads of profanity, but its the biggest laugh man im telling ya.
some things in there i reckon no one here knows absolutley.
i think its done by a professional metal AE.
I have to retrieve the the link now so i will put it undernieth this post.
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Aug 27, 2008 09:47 am Ha ! I forgot all about this one . Good read, for sure . Although, I'll prolly never mic my cab again, with the way the direct-out of this new amp sounds... I couldn't get any better with any mic I have .
Fun/informative read, nonetheless .
Aug 27, 2008 10:31 am If you want to find out more or chat up the guy you can find him here;
www.thewombforums.com/
Aug 27, 2008 10:45 am geez Hue, i wish i could say the same on the mic thing.
What amp are you using? Any good for heavy outs?
Aug 27, 2008 11:47 am It's a Line6 FlextoneIII, w/shortboard . I just gave the two(L & R)XLR-direct outs a try last night, and was utterly blown away ! The sound was as good, if not better than anything I've come up with by micing the cab with a LDC . They use some kiind of 'AIR' technology to model the sound of a mic'd cab... friggin' amazing !
As far as 'Heavy' goes, this thing nails both the Mesa, and Marshall tones to a 'T'... it actually 'feels' like you're playing through tubes ! I don't know how they did it, but I'm glad they did . Prolly the best sounding amp, I've ever had the pleasure to plug into .
Aug 27, 2008 01:04 pm I had the HD147 for a long time. Lacking mics at one show I informed the sound tech of the stereo direct outs. He used them and said they sounded awesome, he (and I) were quite suprised.
Aug 27, 2008 08:34 pm mmm, sounds like a possible addition to the ever increasing list of stuff i want to get.
dont get me wrong i love my head and box. just dont think i can blast it enough to record with it. although i am gonna try an attenuator. but still this sounds interesting for sure.
Aug 28, 2008 08:20 am Also, there's an ''lil dedicated volume knob that goes with those outs, so your recording/PA signal can be adjusted without messing with the amps volume . They thought of everything .
Aug 28, 2008 02:06 pm isn't thew flextone III like having a PODxt in the amp (well for the most part) . I'm trying to find a good superclear amp to run my PODxt with possibly a nice tube amp. I know this is crazy talk for some but mixin and matchin is what it's all about.
Aug 28, 2008 02:23 pm Yeah Geoff, that's pretty much it . With the shortboard, y'a get one less expression peddle, and a couple less foot-switches than the PODxt, and it runs into a 150w amp with a Celestian-loaded 2x12" cab . I'm pretty sure they make a 1x12" version as well .
I'm not sure how much you'd actually bennefit from using a tube amp with a tube-amp-modeler... y'a might actually be better off finding a nice clean power amp to run it into .(?)
Aug 28, 2008 02:41 pm I was think so as well but there is an amp that is made for the amp modeling boxes that i belive is tube powered. I've run the Xt though a pa and it worked well but I was just think about mixin and matching and messing around . I rarly mic amps but I've done some goofy stuff, even though i end up going back to the direct tracks (or blending em)
Aug 28, 2008 07:50 pm see i've always found direct ins with heavy guitars to be really, well crappy.
guess i gotta try out this line 6 bizzo. sounds great. man if i didnt have to mic up boxes again i would be the happiest wanna be in town.
Aug 29, 2008 08:46 am Quote:
man if i didnt have to mic up boxes again i would be the happiest wanna be in town.
I'm hip ! I'd never thought I'd go back to recording guitars direct again . With the options that this amp has to it, both physically and toneally, it has single-handedly changed my approach to all the guitar parts on the up-coming album . AND I'll be able to recreate all those tone-changes in the live shows as well . heh, I never thought I'd end up one of those 'Line-6-guys' . = p I did need to keep one stompbox in the line, though... the Boss Super Overdrive... just couldn't get around the gainstaging that one provides .
Aug 30, 2008 01:03 am Jeez it warms my cockle's to see all this Line 6 Luv going on.
Isn't this what I have been preaching for about 10 years now?? Or something like that, however long Line 6 has been around???
But ya, Tripps. Try something from Tech 21. They make a super clean little amp that Ben, our buddy from MGR used with his live and it absolutely kick arse!
The one thing I can tell you is to make certain to keep the things updated and current. And ALWAYS back up your patch creations! Since there are a couple of updates that twisted a couple of my favorite creation's and I had to go back and re-load them and re-tweak them to fit with the update's.
Hue, on the feeling thing. It isn't exactly like the push and pull of a tube amp but it is damn close to it when you get it juicing through the right set up. That is the main reason I keep the PR15's in here powered with 1000 watts. I can get that feeling playing it live when I need to. I simply hang a mic in here to pic up the speakers and then mix it in with the direct tracks. It works out great when I need the extra push and sustain/feedback that only live speakers can give.
Aug 30, 2008 10:27 pm i've often wondered what it would sound like having a direct or plug in track, along witha miked track. will have to try.
Aug 31, 2008 01:38 am Ya, its surprising what a mix of things will do.
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