Need amp's input in control room..

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Member Since: Mar 12, 2008

yea, how do i accomplish this without adding more noise? I need about 40 feet (from the amp's input to the control room) Do i accomplish this with a snake with TRS returns? or is there some magical piece of gear that I havent found yet? Thanks in advance.

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MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Since: Aug 05, 2008


Aug 17, 2008 02:21 pm

Put the head in the control room and run a speaker wire.

Czar of Midi
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Aug 17, 2008 07:39 pm

He has it right. Since 18' is about max for a guitar cable you don't want to run a 40' guitar cable. Here we do as Massive suggested. The head can sit in the control room and then run a good cable for the cabinet. It works every time.

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Aug 18, 2008 04:10 am

wow now i feel dumb, that makes so much more sense. Thanks guys.

Czar of Midi
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Aug 18, 2008 06:12 pm

No need to feel dumb at all. Unless you've been there before its not something you would think of right off.

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Aug 19, 2008 01:05 am

But now that you know it, you'll never go back. :-)

Mic positioning is still a walk (an assistant is very valuable at this point). But being able to tweak the sound from the control room with the player in the room - The ease of communication is worth it on its own.

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Aug 19, 2008 02:03 am

I remember one time i was at a recording studio that was very near to a soccer stadium, i was recording guitars that day, so i placed the head in the control room and run a speaker wire to the tracking room. Everything is ok, but suddenly we start hearing the radio on the speaker cabinet, and it was very loud.

It was the soccer final that day so all radio and tv stations were transmiting from like half a mile away. In an attempt to get rid of the interference we placed the head very near to the cab, with the guitar player next to it, we changed the cables, looped them, twisted them, anything you can imagine but no luck, the radio was still on.

We had to wait until the match ended to record guitars, but at least we were able to know the score and who won hehehe

I tune down down...
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Aug 19, 2008 11:12 am

Lol. We had a bassist with a similar issue.

Question from me is, why does this happen? :) Does the cable act as an antenna?

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Aug 19, 2008 12:10 pm

Yes, its called electromagnetic interference, the radio waves get into the cable. The type of shielding of a cable is very important in this kind of situations, but guitars and guitar amps do not work with balanced signals so its easier to have this kind of problems, even more if you are close to a radio station transmiter.

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Aug 19, 2008 12:11 pm

I am having the flashback to Spinal Tap's gig at the air force base and Nigel's trouble with his wireless...




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Aug 19, 2008 12:22 pm

LMAO thats the best example ever!

I tune down down...
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Aug 19, 2008 06:16 pm

Ah. Well, thank you. No wonder my Planet Wave cable fixed that problem. Haha...


That movie is freakin' awesome!!!! Haha.

Czar of Midi
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Aug 19, 2008 09:49 pm

Now I'm gonna have to go pop in the DVD. I hate when he brings up Spinal Tap. My favorite band in the whole world.

The Czar of BS
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Aug 19, 2008 09:55 pm

But your not as confused as Nigel is!

Czar of Midi
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Aug 19, 2008 10:24 pm

You haven't known me long enough yet Rob.

I can be easily confused.

So did MackBarrow get his car started?

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