New song with Real drums this time

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Trey
Member Since: Aug 11, 2007

I just wanted to post our newest recording up and get everyone's critique on my drums. Please tell me what you think.

(keep in mind, this recording is very quiet...hasn't hit the limiter yet)

-t


song name: Alone (WIP)

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www.TheLondonProject.ca
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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Jul 21, 2008 11:15 am

Sounds really good Valid. I like the song, well done. My comments are purely subjective.

To me the hi hat needs to be tamed a bit. IMO it is a little loud in the intro and I find it a bit distracting. The snare could use a bit more crack to it. If you used a mic on the bottom of the snare, try boosting it a bit otherwise a bit of EQ may help. Either way this sounds great as is.

Well done. The tune reminds me of a Nightwish song... "Bless the Child" I think it is called. Anyways, it was enjoyable to listen to.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 11:19 am

Thanks man. I guess some Mult Band Compression on the overheads should fix those hats.

I should perhaps back off on the attack time for the compressor on the snare then, to give it a little more room to snap through.

I'm also thinking of replacing the kick drum with a sample. What I've got now sounds more like a whump than a kick lol.

www.TheLondonProject.ca
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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Jul 21, 2008 11:32 am

Try some EQ on the kick... somewhere around 2.5K to give is some attack. That might be all it needs. Replacing would work as well but almost seems like cheating when you have gotten the drums to sound this good already.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 01:10 pm

Yeah man, the kick can be a beast. It really does not sound bad for the song though. Try cutting the ole 300-500 range by alot. I use a Q of around 5-7 and cut at 350hz on my kick, I usually cut around -10 on up to -18 depending on the style. As stated the 2.5 boost can help bring out some attack.

Song is badass, reminds me of Metallica doing the orchestra album, except this is actually cool :) Very very cool sound, will it have vox?

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 01:20 pm

the sad thing is, it's already but ripped down the middle and boosted the bejesus out of about 2.5 already...

I guess it's just a bad recording of that drum.

Yeah vox are coming prolly tonight. Also bass.

Thanks for the compliments!

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 21, 2008 01:21 pm

kick drums are a *****.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 01:24 pm

indeed. I;ve gotten a good sound out of that drum before. It prolly fell into the pillow or something before we started tracking. Would explain the muffled sound I'm fighting. I'm not gonna be able to get any more definition out of the click part of the kick...


*sad* now I have to manually replace that kick bc I don't have drumagog...just session drummer...

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 01:28 pm

Try tossing a bass boost on it before you EQ it. Also, try boosting 4k and 8-9k for that little click to cut through the mix and stand out on small speakers.

If that does not work, if you send me an MP3 (upload to your profile and make downloadable) of that kick track I will drumagog it to your liking to save you some time on replacement. We would have to have an FTP for me to send it back so you can maintain the WAV quality though.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 01:50 pm

Oh wow you would do that? What a beast! Thank you! I'll try to fix it with EQ first and then if it's a no go, then I'll send it your way. I'll host it on our band site and send you the url.

I'll give you an ftp account to send it back. (if wav is possible please do, if not, no biggie)


btw DB: is it ok to post my band's website on the forum?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 21, 2008 01:52 pm

sure, man, link it up...

If you have HarBal, maybe get a good kick drum from a sample and check the EQ of it, then try and match yours within HarBal...might help.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 01:52 pm

www.validband.com/main

Just finished the web design like 3 days ago...

24 hrs of straight computer screen...no sleep...just food and peeing lol...and bloodshot eyes.

Also there is another version of the song on the website. That studio didn't make us happy. (they burried the strings) so we are re-doing...

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 01:57 pm

No problem at all, I can apply several different kicks, dump it back to youvia mp3 so you can hear them and pick one. Then I can do the whole shebang and mix it down to wav for you.

BTW, that is a kickass band photo on the site, almost like a group pic from jail if you had the height measuring board behind you :)

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 01:58 pm

Thanks man. That is our bass player's photography. He's a beast. He's the second one to from the left.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 21, 2008 01:59 pm

sweet lookin site.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:00 pm

Thank you. It was ridiculously hard work. I had to learn CSS from scratch when I started and 24 hrs later I was finaly done.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:08 pm

cptTripps:
just go to validband.com/files and click it there

kick cptTripps in the face.mp3

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 21, 2008 02:11 pm

...never put spaces in file names.

...im just sayin...

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:11 pm

yeah I just remembered lol

there we go.. took em out

there is a giant dead space in the beginning bc of the inro

cptTripps what's your email and I'll send you login info

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:18 pm

oh also - BPM is 140

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 02:54 pm

jamiespurgeon@hotmail.com

And what do you know, I happen to have my laptop at work :)

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:55 pm

nice!

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 02:59 pm

just sent you an email

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 03:16 pm

Hey, I need the FTP address that is gonna request a login.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 03:25 pm

lol mybad

ftp.validband.com

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 03:44 pm

I am just dumping back an mp3, I went with one that has alot of attack. You may be able to match it with your current kick for sweetness or just process it to your liking. I cannot really hear anything over my laptop speakers so I just picked one from memory. If all is well I can upload a wav of it later if even needed.

Same file name with a _gog at the end. Should be there now.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 03:53 pm

thanks alot

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 03:58 pm

I have tons of GOG samples, let me know if that one works for ya. It is possible you could roll of the lows and just combine the attack with your current kick tone. I did not compress anything so the dynamics should be the same.

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 21, 2008 04:01 pm

Can't tell yet bc I'm on a laptop in a coffee shop but I think that will work. I'll let you know later tonight by email.

Again thank you! You're a beast!

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Since: Apr 26, 2006


Jul 21, 2008 08:36 pm

Man I just down right like the song.Nice!

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 21, 2008 09:41 pm

I'm with Bluesdues on this one. I just plain like this. I can't wait to hear it sound like the track that auto plays on the site, that kicks some arse as well.

I must also agree it does have a certain NightWish sound to it. But just that it reminds me of it, same tune as mentioned above.

Very well done, I can't wait to hear it as it progresses.

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Since: Mar 12, 2008


Jul 23, 2008 02:14 am

Wow that was really awesome, really awesome. Best song I've heard on here IMO.
Keep it up!

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 23, 2008 11:54 am

Thank you all so much for being so enthusiastic about our band. It's good to know that people enjoy our music!

Thanks Mack for the compliment.

-t

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 23, 2008 11:54 am

don't let it go to your head, you suck!

Trey
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Since: Aug 11, 2007


Jul 23, 2008 12:23 pm

*sobs* .... I'm gonna go shoot myself in the leg....

A small pie will soon be eaten
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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Jul 23, 2008 11:23 pm

Reminds me a bit of Metalica for some reason!

Really well done.

Not sure if I'm hearing a remixed version but everything sounds spot on to me, Laptop speakers not withstanding.

Very classy stuff mate.

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