vox recording in a booth

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what is everyones thought on this???
i have a small booth i use for recording guitars (standing height) its padded with that egg carton foam. i've done a couple of takes to check the sound and im finding it to be very dry with no colour...dead almost.
is the room set up to blame here you thnk?
or could it be the pre's on my hardware?
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im havin to use the cubase monitoring instead of direct because my condenser on direct monitoring isnt coming through the headphones loud enough. there isnt a pad either.
so eventually having the latency low to use cubase monitring, its going its going to crash.
cheers


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Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Apr 16, 2008 12:16 pm

I don't have one, I usually have people sing into my closet full of clothes.

I actually read something I'm going to try in a couple days here. Basically you have the singer in the control room, don't have him wear cans, eliminate bleed as much as possible and have him sing while listening to the tunes from the monitors at a quieter volume. It was stated that singers tended to do better and be more accurate as the eviornment feels more natural to them. Sound weird, indeed, will I try, yup.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Apr 16, 2008 12:50 pm

when working in a 'less-than-ideal' rooms, I'd theorize that dead room is better then a 'bad' reflections room.

Recording dry lets you create the reverb you want, provided you have a reverb that you like =/.

I would also theorize that a dry recording with no reverb or reflections may still be a great recording. The tone and clarity of the actual signal may be good, but without the reverb, the brain makes you think that it's dead and lifeless. Add reverb to taste, and the track may come alive.

But also, i guess that pres or converters could be deadening the signal too. To hard to tell through a inet post =).


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Apr 16, 2008 08:46 pm

well maybe one could gauge it this way.
i still have to sing around 3/4 inches away to be heard using an NT-1. it doesnt sound driven enough though.

maybe i need better phantom?
i have heard that the phantom on some of these interfaces arent that good.

anyway. about the direct monitoring...should i be using that or the cubase for phones?
i just cant get enought level without the cubase mon.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Apr 16, 2008 10:10 pm

I always monitor from Cubase itself. It sounds like a gain problem for sure. There is no way you should have to swallow an NT1 to be heard. On the recorded track what kind of levels are you getting?

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Since: Nov 27, 2007


Apr 17, 2008 07:11 am

hey Walt,
will have to do another round of takes over the weekend, will let you know how it goes.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Apr 17, 2008 08:45 am

Oh yeah, my SP C1 and B3 are way loud. I can track from 3 feet away with plenty of volume.

This is direct from the board too, not through reaper. I still can monitor through reaper, if I choose, but I don't have to. The gain from the board preamps is plenty.

Stick a multimeter in that preamp between the pins (or on the cable, plugged into the board). Set it to the 200vdc setting. Check between each of the pins, and somewhere you should be getting the 40 - 50vdc. I think phantom can be a range, doesn't need to be 48v exactly. not sure though.

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