Eli Manning deserves a Super Bowl appearance like...

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...Osama bin Laden deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Since: May 30, 2002


Jan 21, 2008 09:58 am

Hahahaha.

Time to let it go Mr. Sour-pants.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jan 21, 2008 10:07 am

nah, I have no personal stake in it, I would have liked to see Favre win, but the way GB played they didn't deserve to...that said, the way Eli played the whole season, he doesn't deserve to either.

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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Jan 21, 2008 11:33 am

Eli is in the zone now though. Look at how he's played from week 17 until now. He's a different quarterback somehow.

I've never been a fan of his either (nor has the city of New York) but you can't deny his steady play lately.

I think the whole country was rooting for Farve to end his career just like Elway did. So much for that though, they played like a bunch of 2nd stringers the whole night. I don't get how they could be so good last week and so poor this week.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jan 21, 2008 05:01 pm

eli's on a roll. as far as the NFC goes, i guess he deserves to be there. i didn't want favre in the super bowl if he was gonna be that inconsistent, i guess. not this year, i guess, where i want someone who stands some of a chance for a weird upset. manning hung with the patriots till the end of the game in december, so, i guess, ok let's see what happens.

i guess.

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Since: Jan 24, 2006


Jan 21, 2008 07:18 pm

Last week GB had a running game, this week it was shut down. Pretty simple in the end. That forced them into long 3rd down situations where Brett went ugly long throw as he's prone to do.

Playing when it counts is all that matters with a playoff system. Euro sports mostly work on the league system where you have to play well all year long.

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Jan 21, 2008 07:46 pm

yeah, and db, you wouldn't want to be euro now would you?

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Jan 21, 2008 07:50 pm

no, my team sucked all season, nice try tho :-D

all century, so far, actually...

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Jan 21, 2008 07:51 pm

enh, but mine sucked worse, and we gave up our 1st round draft pick to NE.

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Jan 21, 2008 09:04 pm

Yeah, it's sad NE is undefeated and gets #7 overall draft pick the next draft...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jan 21, 2008 10:08 pm

Well sadly it will be the Pats that go a complete season undefeated. I would sure like to see them loose but it ain't gonna happen against that team.

GB might have stood a chance.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Jan 22, 2008 05:27 am

i take the opposite perspective from noize there. 38-35, noize, in december. the giants are not just manning. they're a good unit led by a qb who's on a roll BUT who also happens to have mental problems. if the mental problems and anxieties don't resurface--manning has had 4 or 5 games with a qb rating of over 100 now, in a row--then the team as a whole may be able to execute.

38-35. four quarters. clearly they're competitive.

the situation-dependent chokes are still there with eli i'm sure. but on the other hand, he's won his critics over. some pressure is removed. favre is great, but above even eli i have had the feeling that's he's just variable. i can't predict him like i can't predict my own bowling score.

i would have wanted favre to do it, but if he's not delivering then goodbye, try again next year, i still like ya. this whole season to me is about who can be rocky and knock over the pats. i never thought it could be eli, but it seems that as long as he stays on his roll, it will be a real game.

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Jan 22, 2008 10:44 am

38-35 was in a meaningless, relaxed, fun game. This is for real with a Superbowl experienced team against an unexpected team that hasn't had a rest in months.

Where's the guy who told us neither Dallas NOR New England would make the Superbowl. Wasn't he a Packers fan LOL.

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Jan 22, 2008 02:52 pm

if eli cracks under the pressure, then the giants will lose in a huge way. if not, the giants team is competitive. so much depends on the eli manning anxiety disorder.

i don't think it was a meaningless, relaxed, game, however. certainly the patriots were under huge pressure. and the giants kept their starters in till the end: obviously they didn't see it as meaningless or relaxed.

which guy are you talking about? i never predicted new england wouldn't make the superbowl. as far as i remember the only thing i've done is to first claim that the steelers were the last best hope. then the giants. then the packers. now i'm saying it's the giants. the last best hope is whoever the patriots are playing next...

the giants remind me a bit of the 2005 steelers. coming from way behind and suddenly getting solid. and possessing some sort of internal unity. here's an article on that:

www.newsday.com/sports/fo...ny_breaking_500

gotta have something to believe in, otherwise there's no point in watching any longer...

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Jan 22, 2008 03:29 pm

Quote:
Where's the guy who told us neither Dallas NOR New England would make the Superbowl. Wasn't he a Packers fan LOL.


That was me. I was half right. And, yes, I'm a Packers fan.

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Jan 22, 2008 03:38 pm

well, admitting is the first step, jim, only 11 more steps to go...

;-)

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Jan 22, 2008 03:56 pm

Forty, have you ever thought that you might be over analyzing this football thing a little too much?

:Poke:

The old adage of "Any given Sunday" is quite true. There's always the possibility of an upset.

Doubt it, though.

If they ring Brady's bell early and often (unlikely) he'll get rattled and might (might...) lose some concentration. That's the one hope they have.

That said, a passing pigeon might distract Eli's concentration.

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Jan 22, 2008 04:51 pm

lol -- yeah, pigeon thing

no -- not overanalyzing

yes -- always possibility of upset; can't quantify intangibles.

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Since: Jan 24, 2006


Jan 22, 2008 07:52 pm

That Week 17 game means nothing. Neither REALLY had anything to play for in the big picture. That game will have no significance to the SB.

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which guy are you talking about? i never predicted new england wouldn't make the superbowl. as far as i remember the only thing i've done is to first claim that the steelers were the last best hope.


You've gotta get that paranoia in check, you didn't say it so why would you think I was talking about you ???

Czar of Midi
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Jan 22, 2008 09:16 pm

I guess in reality NE could go into the bowl with a huge swollen head attitude and completely blow it. And yes, if Eli can keep it together the entire game, and the team can as well. Then yes they could easily take advantage of a team who's head is already thinking they have won it all.

It has happened to better teams I guess so why not to the Pats.

Either way, I am going to sit and watch an entire Super bowl this year if it kills me.

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Jan 22, 2008 09:26 pm

tony, i thought you might be talking about me because i think it was you who i called a name once.

but you can't be serious that neither team had anything to play for week 17. you serious, man? hahaha. new england was playing for SO much. they get so far undefeated, and then what? brady: 'guys let's just take 'er easy today, none of this stuff matters, really.' and the giants were going all out because they had nothing to lose whatsoever. if you don't see that, i dunno, i just scratch my head.

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