OK I just recorded my first Complete song!

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Dethklok, Dethklok
Member Since: Dec 25, 2007

I just finished this song I am tired of listening to it. lol Please tell me what you hear ie.. Vox up, Guitar up, or down whatever.

Thanks in advance,

It's called Bluesy Bit. It's in my profile.

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Dethklok, Dethklok
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Since: Dec 25, 2007


Jan 12, 2008 06:58 pm

I definately think the levels are wrong but I've listened to it so much my ears are numb. LOL

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jan 12, 2008 11:19 pm

If I don't get at it tonight I'll take a listen tomorrow. I'll let you know what I hear.

Czar of Midi
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Jan 13, 2008 01:12 pm

Vox down and back a bit. Probably just down a bit as they are right out front and huge. Kinda futuristict ZZ Top if you will. The Chorus effect or whatever might have a bit to do as well but I would try a simple level adjustment first.

the bass could maybe use a bit more thump with a heavier dosse of compression. Drums are nice and tight though.

Maybe cut the level 2 to 4 dB on th lead and it should come together nicely.

Love the tune, as I said it reminds me a bit of ZZ Top for sure.

I'll give a better listen as well later for a third take or so.

Dethklok, Dethklok
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Since: Dec 25, 2007


Jan 13, 2008 02:07 pm

As always, thanks. I'm trying to get this whole mixing and mastering thing down. When you say "a heavier dose of compression" I am not quite sure how to adjust it. I don't have a clue how to adjust compression. I know to get to the area to adjust it I just don't know what to due once I get there. lol

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Jan 13, 2008 03:10 pm

Maybe a bit of reverb to even things out somewhat... lend some depth .

Cool bluesy song !

Dethklok, Dethklok
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Since: Dec 25, 2007


Jan 13, 2008 04:13 pm

I re-recorded the Rythmn guitars and took a little of the vox. Let me know what you think. I'm gettin there I think. As far as learning to listen, you know. lol

Czar of Midi
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Jan 13, 2008 09:44 pm

Yep, you are getting there for sure. I like the rhythm guitars for sure. The vocal is actually at the proper level now to sit well in the mix. You just need to now either notch out a little of the frequency that the vocal is sitting in from the rhythm tracks or add a little something in the lower mids to give the vocal its own spot in the mix.

Both the guitars and the vox are at a very proper level so it is just getting the frequency set on each to make them both sound even in the mix.

As for the compression on the bass to make it punch through without raising the level of it. You simply need to look at it like this. If the compression was originally at 1:1 you could raise it up to say 2:1 and try it there. For bass in a distorted mix I will usually use a minimum of 2:1 but sometimes crank it to 4:1 and then use a very quick attack time and a mid to slow release. If you want it to pop which would be good for this tune you can use a pretty quick release as well. You can mess with the threshold a little but start out at a midway setting and move up or down from there to get the best resulting sound. I would say a lower threshold would work well here as the bass sounds fairly moderate now.

Hope this is helping. This mix sounds better then the first for sure. So you know you are going in the right direction.

Dethklok, Dethklok
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Since: Dec 25, 2007


Jan 13, 2008 10:41 pm

O.K. I compressed the bass. I can't tell if it's to loud now or not, but i actually like hearing it now.lol I am not quite sure how to change the freq on the Vox. Sure it is in the EQ but I am not sure how to tweak it. Oh, The compressed bass version is posted.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Jan 14, 2008 01:29 am

Cool tune for sure. I've been recording & mixing all day so my ears are shot, I'll give a listen tomorrow and tell you what I think on the mix. :)

Dan

Czar of Midi
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Jan 14, 2008 06:06 pm

Listening now.

Czar of Midi
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Jan 14, 2008 06:11 pm

Hey dude, I'm gonna fly the track into SoundForge and take a look at the frequancy spectrum and see if I can find exactly where the vocal sits. I'll let ya know. But now for some reason it doesn't sound like its bleeding together with the rhythm like it did yesterday.

Czar of Midi
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Jan 14, 2008 07:38 pm

OK, try giving the vocal a tiny boost with a parametric EQ and set the Q or width about midway or a little under. Then boost it at about 1.4k by about 6 to 10 dB. That should make the vocal come out pretty clear for the entire tune. It seems it is only hiding in certain parts were your voice is a little softer in that specific frequency range.

Otherwise the mix sounds pretty tight now. I like the way the bass is punching through the mix now. Its really not that loud here at all, it is pretty much just right on my rig.

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Jan 14, 2008 07:44 pm

In my work headphones, I would say the rhythm guitar is taking over this song. I think it could come down in the mix a bit, and cut some of the eq frequencies in it so the other instruments and vocals can come through. For the drums, I can only really hear the brass, everything else is behind the rhythm guitars for me.

I actually like the song alot though!

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Jan 15, 2008 12:16 am

I have the same impression as last night, I think if you give Noize's suggestion, along with coolo's it will make a big improvement. Honestly it doesn't sound bad now, I really like the guitar tone, real gritty, in your face, but it is dominating everything else. Even if you didn't do anything else to it I'd still enjoy listening to it, great driving blues! :)

Dan

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