Upfront kicks and Big sound
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Posted on Jan 02, 2008 05:57 am
bahcoach
Member Since: Dec 26, 2007
Hi again, still trying to learn more things.
I have been listening to some hiphop/RnB stuff and on some songs i noticed that the kick is very upfront and especially on the hiphop songs. The bass was deep yet audible and the sound felt big and wide.
Is it the choice of samples that one uses or one can achieve something similar with just compression and Eqing?
Iam using Reason 3, Cubase, SoundForge
Songs in reference: Laughing straight to the bank (50 Cent) and Breath by Toni Braxton.
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Jan 02, 2008 07:24 am HipHop isn't my bag by any means...but, compression and EQing can do the trick. Compressing the crap out of a sample and scooping out the EQ of the other instruments where the kick sits will bring it WAY out front if you want it to.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jan 02, 2008 08:41 am and 'ducking'...
you need to have a compressor that can sidechain... which I think is standard in most nowadays... basically ducking uses one track to trigger the compressor to compress a different track...
you would use the kick on one track to trigger the compressor and the rest of the mix on another track and when ever the kick hits the mix is compressed allowing the kick to be louder than the mix.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 02, 2008 04:02 pm Try the Antress Modern suite of free VSTs. They have ModernDeepPurple which will help you to dial in the frequencies and boost them (it's a "mastering" parametric EQ/Compressor), also there is an expander (similar to the BBE stuff) that will help to give that deep stuff a kick in the pants). Free, so it wouldn't hurt to try.
Careful with those expanders, I just about crapped myself the other day when I accidentally boosted a keyboard part way down low....
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 02, 2008 07:19 pm I'll toss in the trick I have been using for years. Combining two or more different sounds to get the kick to sound bigger. Some do it by using a bass note that is in the same frequency range and mixing that with a heavy kick drum sound. Then EQ and compress the daylights out of it. Myself I use a synth bass for that purpose, although I prefer to build one complete sample and use it that way by combining different sounds as I mentioned above.
Jan 08, 2008 12:01 am Ive heard the term ducking but never knew what it is. Now I do
