need help with recording rap on magix deluxe 12
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Posted on Dec 09, 2007 10:07 pm
D40-Oz
Member Since: Dec 09, 2007
ive been doing quite a bit of recording on magix deluxe 12 buut im not statified with how it sounds
i have a pretty good sound card and i got a samson Co1U mic
the mic sounds good
but how can i record good rap vocals and make it sound like a real rap song?
i have no idiea where to go to learn this either
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Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
Since: Oct 23, 2007
Dec 10, 2007 05:39 am I've never even heard of Magix, looks interesting though.
I'm not sure I understand whats wrong? With that set-up it should be pretty straight forward. Are you having mixing issues, sound quality issues? Little more detail please.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 10, 2007 09:11 pm Yep, fill us in on the sound card your using and what kind of track you are rapping over and we'll see if we can get you some answer's.
Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
Since: Oct 23, 2007
Dec 10, 2007 09:47 pm Actually Noize, he's using a USB mic and 'Magix Delux' (It looks like its kinda like Audacity)
D40, when you use a USB microphone, the only thing you use your sound card for is monitoring. That said, so long as the program is set to record from the mic, you should be golden. I can't see what your question is though, so again, more info is needed. Are you having problems recording period, or are you having quality issues?
Mar 18, 2008 12:00 am Okay this is funny, I have been using Magix studio for a while sense magix 6 about 6 years ago I just now bought 12,my computer that i had years ago got a bad trojan virus, and just now bought a new hard drive and all that good stuff but any way I have been making music for going on 10 years now, I have always used a not so good Mic. And Now I am making a Booth And I am Getting a Studio Quality Mic And My computer that i fixed doesnt have the internet or nuthin so nobody can hack into it.So with that said I am really thinking about Buying the new Samson G-Track USB condenser Mic..SO my question i was looking for is Will my MAGIX STUDIO 12 be able to verify that I have a mic in a USB port??????????
Mar 18, 2008 12:44 am D40: Honestly, I don't think the Samson mic is the best choice. And, for the record, a SoundBlaster X-Fi would not be a good choice for recording.
A good dynamic mic would be a better choice. Personally, I like the Electrovoice RE-20 but Shure's SM7, SM58 are also good choices. Yes a good condenser would be nice. Preferably one with a -10dB pad. With rap you want to get good and close to the mic. Rappers tend to take advantage of proximity effect(the closer to the source the more bass)to get that deep sound.
That all being said, try turning the gain down on the mic if it is at all possible. Get a good pop filter and prop it about 1" away from the mic. That should help. You'll need to play with the input gain to make sure you're not getting any clipping. That means none. You can use a combination of compression and parallel compression to add definition to your vox.
Ideally you would want to use an outboard compressor but since we are going direct usb here, that is pretty well impossible. In magix, duplicate your track. On one track use light compression: ratio of 2:1, attack of 30, ms release 250ms, threshold should be set so that the compressor only just kicks in occasionally. If there is a meter set it to "gain reduction" and pay attention so that you only see GR very slightly.
On the copied track you can simply duplicate the compression and pan each track slightly left and right but balanced so that the vox appear centered. Conversely you could set the ratio to 4:1 or even as high as 8:1 with a release of 250ms or more, attack at 50-80ms. This will accentuate the plosives or transients(the P's,T's. Consonants. Use adjust the level to just add definition to the vocals. You don't want this to be loud it will sound awful. Think of this as just an effect.
Remember though that the levels I suggested are just ballpark. In fact they may be way off for the vocal definition idea. The concept is to set the compressor to heavily compress everything but the initial transient. And again, this should be used as an affect to enhance the main vocal track. Don't use it as the main track. IT WILL SOUND AWFUL.
When I referred to parallel compression, essentially it is the same concept though you can do this by implementing an auxiliary send and compressing the auxiliary bus to give the vocal definition. I hope this all makes sense. Take it with a grain of salt. They are only suggestions and may not work for you. Experiment. Use your ears. That's the best way to learn.
