Crap, my martial arts career (and most sports) is probably over...

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Administrator Since: Apr 03, 2002

I was playing flag football with my neighbors church league on Sunday, did something wrong and tore the hell out of the cartilage in my knee, and likely did some ligament/tendon damage too. My knee is totally swelled up and hurts like hell...no structural damage, the bones are all OK, but this is the third time I have hurt my knee (same knee) in the last year...and last night I was supposed to take a seminar with Royce Gracie but I couldn't cuz I'm laid up...

This SUCKS!

The worst part is I don't think my knee will ever be the same...ARGH!

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Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Oct 23, 2007 06:57 am

wow that sucks

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2007 07:02 am

Yeah, it does suck...isn't as sucky as it is ironic...does anyone else see the irony of training cage fighting for about 3 years then getting taken out playing church league flag football?

edit0r
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Since: Aug 17, 2004


Oct 23, 2007 08:02 am

Ouch. My mum did that when she was a netball superstar way back. She had surgery and I'm pretty sure she was still able to play after a good stint of recovering. Still nags her to this day though, so good luck with it man.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Oct 23, 2007 08:10 am

Maybe that's the Big Guy's way of steering you away from a bigger, more difficult injury later on.

Mysterious ways, and all that, you know . . .

Maybe you could try out for flag cage fighting =).

But seriously, I hope your recovery is quick and smooth.




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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2007 08:16 am

Yeah, thats what I told my trainer, he emailed and I told him I'm done, God was telling me something here, the timing is too specific to not take that message.

In a week or two after I am out of my brace I am going to try Yoga a couple times a week, see if I can get some flexibility back and just stick with weights and the heavy bag in the basement...

::sigh::

Prince CZAR-ming
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Oct 23, 2007 08:21 am

There's always Tai Chi. That's a martial arts, so it's still on the list =).

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Oct 23, 2007 08:37 am

Yeah, that's another low impact, worthless "martial art"...or, common western Tai Chi is anyway...I've done some Yoga, I like that, good stretching, the scenery is usually pretty decent. Yoga just amazing regarding how one can get so tired moving so slow...it's quite amazing...I always skip out on the silly "meditation" part though...I meditate when I have beer. :-)

Ne'er ate 'er
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Oct 23, 2007 09:03 am

Well man, you ARE....ahemm...

40.

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Oct 23, 2007 09:09 am

Let's see, how many people have told me that in the last 3 days...ohhhhhhhh, let me count...

Whatever happened to "you are only as young as you feel"...oh, wait, I feel like crap.

ARGH! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN! WHEN DID I BECOME MY DAD!

Ne'er ate 'er
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Oct 23, 2007 10:00 am

Meh. The time to worry is when you become your mother.

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Oct 23, 2007 10:10 am

Hey dB, sorry to hear about this. I too am side-lined due to injury and won't be playing competitive hockey again. This age thing does suck now doesn't it? Anyways, take care of yourself and get better soon.

Lonnie

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Oct 23, 2007 10:11 am

Hey, age happens to the best of them:

www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/...d.ap/index.html

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Oct 23, 2007 10:20 am

Comparing BH and myself to Marie Osmond is just looking for an *** kickin, sore knee or not, I can take ya! ;-)

Sorry about your injury BH...yeah, aging does suck, spend our whole youths learning to do tricks we can't do any more...just ain't fair

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Oct 23, 2007 10:31 am

Quote:
sore knee or not, I can take ya! ;-)


Haha. Marie Osmond could take me.

Wait...now there's an interesting thought.

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Oct 23, 2007 10:31 am

Actually, I really can't *****. Out of a lot of my friends/teammates, I'm one of the only ones that played into my 40's. I do miss it a lot though and my beer gut ain't getting any smaller.

Maybe it's time to take up lawn bowling.

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Oct 23, 2007 10:37 am

Wow man, that really sucks. I broke an ankle playing beach volleyball and have been banned from all sports except golf by 'er indoors. I feel for you.

I have a meeting (work) with Crosley Gracie's wife this afternoon. Should I tap her on some rehab/training tips for crapped out knees?

I'm 42 on Friday, so I'm saying nuthin'....

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 23, 2007 10:43 am

My wife knows better than to ban me from anything, but she has grown to be real quick on the "I told you" reflex...

If she has any knee tips, I'm all ears, there is so much conflicting info out there, I have done everything, and it was a lot stronger, I have been actively training then one wrong move and it's right back to the starting point...SUCKS.

That said, I am with BH, I have been far more active than most everybody my age, so I feel good for that...but still...

Ne'er ate 'er
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Oct 23, 2007 11:03 am

Three words: golf, golf, and golf.

You have plenty of time before you're 50 to become a scratch player (or better) and be eligible for the Champions Tour.

There you go.

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Oct 23, 2007 11:07 am

Golf, pffffft, kinda fun for a "sport" you can drink while playing but I have a real hard time getting in to any sport that isn't full contact...they just don't appeal to me...

That's probably a good part of the reason my body is in the shape it's in...

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Oct 23, 2007 02:14 pm

The PGA seniors tour would be fun. I'd have three or four years before Tiger came over....Then it would be back to the old Top Ramen.

The Eternal Student
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Oct 23, 2007 03:04 pm

Whenever I see golf, I think 'nap time' or 'pasture pool'...

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Oct 23, 2007 03:43 pm

Quote:
have a real hard time getting in to any sport that isn't full contact.


Try this... Go golfing with 'da boys', have a few drinks, and then mouth off at one of your buddies just after he swings.
Full contact is almost guaranteed.

Learned that one the hard way.

I am not a crook's head
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Oct 23, 2007 05:33 pm

Golf is actually a very, very difficult sport. The amount of precision required is amazing...the line between a good shot and a terrible shot is so exceedingly fine that it can be a maddening sport.

It's more of a workout than you think...grab a bag of clubs and walk 18 holes with it over your shoulder. Then stop every 100 yards or so and swing one of them as hard as you can. It gets exhausting after about 12 or 13 holes. Especially in the summer, and especially for someone like me who sucks...I take twice as many swings as everybody else so I get tuckered out much more quickly :)

Sorry to hear about your knee though. I could compare it to how I'd feel if I tore up one of my hands and couldn't play guitar, computer games, billiards, golf, or any of the other things I love doing with my hands (heheh, that kinda sounds dirty).

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Oct 23, 2007 05:58 pm

It is a skill, but it's not a sport.

Czar of Midi
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Oct 23, 2007 06:11 pm

having been plagued with knee problems since the age of around 16 I am all to aware of the pain and crap that goes with it. Although I did keep playing A league softball until almost forty when the right knee finally made the shotgun pop while running to first. That was when I knew it was over. Now 15 surgeries later I got the bad news I knew was coming. Full blown degenerative arthritis in the ankles and knee's. The arthritis has been in the hands for years and dealt with for the most part. But I just didn't want to admit to it. Now just a tiny bit away from 50 the cortisone injections have begun and they suck. But if it can give a tiny bit of relief then its all good.

I still love hiking and such but now limit it to what I know I can do. Although I did find out my insurance will cover the bionic knee thing so I may opt for that. It would be a good way to get out of work for 6 week's. :-)

BH, I loved playing hockey as well. But sadly that was the first thing I had to give up by my late 20's.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Oct 23, 2007 06:45 pm

Quote:
It is a skill, but it's not a sport.


John Daly begs to differ.


http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060502/060502_daly_vmed_2p.widec.jpg




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Oct 23, 2007 06:54 pm

Quote:
'pasture pool'


my sister is a golf instructor... and I'm going to use that :)


Czar of Midi
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Oct 23, 2007 07:23 pm

The only thing I like about hitting a golf ball is at the driving range. We used to go to a range that had a slight curve to it. Add to the fact we always hit from the far end.


And my slice or hook, whichever goes right, is to die for. I actually knocked over a guys bucket with one of the bad ones. But that said, when I hit a straight one it is gone baby gone! Problem is I have no real control so I suck at it.

My golf swing was derived from my slapshot.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Oct 23, 2007 08:20 pm

...last time I went to a driving range my club went further than by golf balls...

plus I'm a lefty at golf so I always use the cruddy clubs...

Czar of Midi
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Oct 23, 2007 09:14 pm

Now that is something even I have never done, toss a club! Ya lefty clubs are tuff to come by if you don't own your own.

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Oct 24, 2007 12:14 pm

Ha, I broke one of my dads clubs at the driving range cuz I hit the head straight into the ground on the down swing. He was none too pleased....

Anyways, db, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe it's time to get into arm rasslin'

That's like if they told me I couldn't play ball anymore. I'd be pretty depressed for a while. Hope you're doing better than that.

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Oct 24, 2007 12:27 pm

'nother lefty here. Like Noise, I use a slap shot technique. Actually I think I would do alright in golf if I could use a hockey stick like Happy Gilmore.

Prince CZAR-ming
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Oct 24, 2007 02:01 pm

I'm a lefty too, but found a full set of decent (fairly decent) clubs when an old-timer kicked off at the place I worked.

I've been using them ever since, but I'm not getting any better =/.

Maybe if I went out more than once every two years.

I do like going to the range though.

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Oct 24, 2007 04:27 pm

sorry to hear about this db

waterskiing. skydiving. racing. find new sports if you can't tax your knee anymore.

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Oct 24, 2007 04:32 pm

Yeah, that's for sure, this summer I took up biking with my oldest daughter, great for a low impact workout...until I get out on the off road trails anyway.

I may be able to Kickbox still, at least drills, not sparring, after some rehab, but grappling and the like are out for sure.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Oct 24, 2007 05:19 pm

...maybe if you just don't do anything thats NOT full contact you won't get injured. :)

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Oct 24, 2007 05:34 pm

Bummer Deebs. I had a similar injury about a decade ago(skying)... once y'a stretch things that far, it gets a little easier to reinjur. It's happend a couple of times since, once because I landed a stair wrong on the way down... sports. Start trying to bend it again after the swelling goes down.(fun) Get well, man!

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Oct 24, 2007 08:23 pm

what's skying?

you jump down stairs? that's your sport?

Czar of Midi
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Oct 24, 2007 09:44 pm

Ya, I'm with forty. What exactly is skying? I don't think I've ever tried that one, sounds like fun.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Oct 24, 2007 11:09 pm

There's a shiny moment !

ehem... 'skiiing'.

Thankyou fortymile... may I have another ?

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Oct 25, 2007 12:00 pm

A lot of lefties here...
That's a lot of upside down guitars! Unless you're drumming - in which case I can't watch (throws me off!).

dB-Wan - Cycling is the way to go. I used to ride about 60 miles on a weekend just for fun - with my daughter (4-6 at the time) on the back in a seat. Real workout.
Low impact as I have a f***ed up knee (javelin...run very fast and then slam all your weight onto your 'weak' knee).

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Oct 25, 2007 12:20 pm

About 12-14 years ago my roommate, myself and a friend of ours used to mountain bike miles and miles along the rivers up here, off season cross country ski trails, grab or tents and head out into state parks and stuff for the weekend...great fun, great workout too. This year I bought a new bike more for street riding (Diamondback Edgewood) as my daughter isn't in to off road yet...she got a nice new Raleigh mountain/cross bike this summer, we put lots of miles on them...

When she gets into off road I still have my stumpjumper hanging from the garage rafters :-)

Knee is feeling better today, still sore, still swollen and doesn't bend well when there is weight on it and still hurts, but not like it did...today is my first day with no brace...not smart

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Oct 25, 2007 12:24 pm

I golf, play hockey and bat left handed but most everything else I do right handed including guitar.

Gotta get back into biking myself. Maybe even swimming.

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Oct 25, 2007 12:35 pm

Swimming is GREAT exercise, it just torks me off that my 9 year old can beat me...that girl has a swimming gift...sheesh...

Prince CZAR-ming
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Oct 25, 2007 01:54 pm

I'm ambi as well, doing golf, hockey (years ago), left handed, but bat either way, and play guitar, fling arrows right sided.


Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Oct 25, 2007 05:28 pm

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you jump down stairs? that's your sport?


heh reminded me of 'tree parachuting' - we'd climb up young trees and when we reached the top we swing out so the tree would bend and then we'd let go... sometimes they didn't bend much...

Czar of Midi
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Oct 25, 2007 06:00 pm

BH, I was the same as you. Not so much with golf though. But the hockey coach caught me young and made me play with a straight stick so I could switch up at any time. Funny enough I'm right handed but my left side slapshot was always the best one.

Swimming, hell ya. All 4 of the boyz are like fish. Probably more so for Tuna and Ray as they were raised at the lake during the summer. Just tossed em in and it was either sink or learn to swim.

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Oct 26, 2007 01:54 am

db, try hang gliding. i would so try hang gliding if i wasn't completely friggin' afraid of it.


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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 26, 2007 05:13 am

I'll pass on that, I get freaked out looking over the edge of the fourth floor of the Mall of America, I doubt I could hang glide...me and heights are not friends.

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