Routing the signal from input soundcard to output soundcard

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Member Since: Oct 18, 2007

Hey community,

I've been struggling to find a solution for a seemingly simple problem.

I have two soundcards:

M-Audio which takes all of the inputs (mics, turntables)

Audigy which handles all of the output.


What I'm trying to do is take live input from the turntables (M-Audio card) and route the signal to the Audigy. Is this possible?

It seems that there should be some simple way to just route the signal, but I haven't been able to find anything.

Any insight is much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

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Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Oct 18, 2007 11:26 pm

depends on the drivers...but really, what do you need the audigy for? plug your speakers into the m-audio and route all the sound out of it. making two soundcards play nice together can get quite dificult unless they are of the same brand (usually).

welcome to HRC!

wyd

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Since: Oct 18, 2007


Oct 19, 2007 12:23 am

Hey! Thanks for the reply.

I have a Delta 1010LT or something. The output quality of it is not as clear or sharp as the audigy... that's why I use the Audigy.

The reason I thought this was simple is because an audio signal is an audio signal. Is there no software to just route a signal from the input to the software to the output?

Enlighten me, I'm dying for it :)

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Since: May 11, 2002


Oct 19, 2007 01:15 am

This should be doable in the recording application... set the 'main' out to output to the audigy.

I'm actually extremely surprised that the SB card sounds clearer than the 1010,,,or anything else for that matter...


The other problem you'll run into is that soundcards are very resource intensive devices... and PCI isn't exactly 'multitask' So if you have a VIA chipset on the motherboard you will likely have to get a tool to adjust the 'PCI Latency'...

If all else fails I'm not sure if Windows will let you set them up as a block device so both appear as a single soundcard... but that would be an ugly thing in windows...


Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Oct 19, 2007 01:56 am

i donno man, i think you might be mistaking 'clear and sharp' sound for good....the SB is more a 'high-end' consumer audio device, whereas the Delta is made for recording....the SB is just more a gamer/multimedia card....

i'd take the SB out of the picture and use it as your soundcard. ya can prolly sell the SB.

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Since: Oct 18, 2007


Oct 19, 2007 10:20 am

Thanks guys.

When I used the RCA out from the Delta to my amp, it was kind of muffled regardless of the volume. There was a lot more interference than from the SB.

I'll take your words of wisdom though.

Another issue is that my SB has a "digital out" which is a 1/8th plug and my Creative 5.1 speakers use this connection... the Delta doesn't offer a digital 1/8th out. It might only be a Creative thing...

Anyway, I'm glad to have found an active forum on home recording! I've just finished moving my studio into my friend's basement where we're joining all of our equipment, and this is part of the process :)

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 19, 2007 10:35 am

Whoa, an 1/8" digital jack? WTH kind of jack is that? I don't think I have ever seen an 1/8" digital jack. Must be proprietary to work with Creative speakers.

I would suspect if the 1010 is sounding bad it's actually your mix that does, the Delta series of cards are far superior to even the best SB's...I'm with the other two in being stunned that is an issue.

Doesn't the Delta have like 8 outputs? That could handle surround sound in a normal, non-proprietary world.

Member
Since: Oct 18, 2007


Oct 19, 2007 11:36 am

Yeah, it's weird. There's a digital out that is shaped like an s-video connection on the back of the creative amp. Then there's another single component cable that comes out of the back of the creative amp. They come together in this adapter whose output is a 1/8th.

When I was playing music through the 1010 output, it wasn't my own mixes, it was other music.

I disabled the preamps on my Delta, that shouldn't be a problem for output, right?

The Delta does have a lot of outputs, some digital, some analog. There are 4 RCA outs, and 4 RCA ins.

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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Oct 19, 2007 11:51 am

FWIW - 2 of those RCA jacks are S/PDIF even though they "look" just like regular RCA outputs.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Oct 19, 2007 07:27 pm

I have to agree on the 1010. The day a Delta sounds worse then an a SoundBlaster is the day I hang it up.

Unless it has been severely abused or set up completely wrong, or as was mentioned the mix is just not proper. Or the monitor's or any number of other things that could effect the output audio could be causing it.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Oct 20, 2007 03:32 am

yeah my computer had a stock 1/8" SPDIF output on it....i can't phathom how it could be considered 5.1 though....SPDIF is only two digital channels (coaxial) which is why you can use a 1/8" cable or an RCA style one....it's all the same...i bet you're running prologic encoding or something to simulate 5.1 surround...but there's no way 6 channels of audio are commin' out of that output.

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Since: Oct 18, 2007


Oct 20, 2007 05:26 am

Hi. I think I know what you are doing. I've used 2 sound cards in my computer (windows). I will input to one and output to the other. It will depend on if your 1010 disabled your SB mixer. The icon of a speaker in the system tray will bring up the SB mixer if you right click on it. You should have 2 choices; the top one will take you to the mixer, the bottom one will take you to windows audio setup. Take the top one and then click on properties or option (i'm doing this from memory), then in the strip window click on the card you want. Then you choose record or playback. However, I'm going to bet that your 1010 disabled your SB mixer and if that's so then i think you probably can't do it. When I did it I was using the onboard card with a SB live card. good luck

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Oct 20, 2007 05:34 am

yeah, the onboard and the SB are prolly both compatible with "MME" drivers....from what i understand, you have three 'types' of drivers, MME, WDM, and ASIO....and it's pretty much the same order from consumer to pro....

but i think it's WDM that's really good at using two separate devices (cards) and if you have WDM drivers for both cards, it could work...

i think (not sure) ASIO only works on very specific products that are designed for it.

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