CAD, SAMSON, AKG, MXL Mics.... whats your Opinion?

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Musician on a Mission
Member Since: Jul 30, 2007

Hey I was wondering what you guys thought of the following mic brands. they will be used for recording only (no gigging). They will be used to record either vocals or acoustic guitar. Let me know :) Thanks!

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 19, 2007 09:32 pm

Well, you have a selection of mics that cover the budget from top to bottom.

What kind of budget do you have for the mic's? That will help determine what direction to point you in.

My preference out of that lot of makers is AKG and CAD. But they are also the more expensive of the lot with AKG being the more expensive of the two I mentioned.

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 20, 2007 10:08 am

Thanks for your reply.. I'm on a lower budget.. I'm looking $100 or less ( would be awesome if less lol)

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Sep 20, 2007 10:20 am

get Karma's...

www.homerecordingconnecti...ory&id=1380

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 20, 2007 10:29 am

Never heard of them... have you used them before or heard anything recorded by them before? thanks for the link :)

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Sep 20, 2007 10:30 am

I haven't, Noize just reviewed them (the link) and has been raving about them and just ordered a couple himself...they are going to change the microphone market, awesome sounding and inexpensive as hell...

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 20, 2007 10:34 am

would they work for vocals too or just instruments you think? They seem real small lol

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Sep 20, 2007 10:42 am

They are really small, so? They will work for anything from what I have heard from Noize, whose judgement I trust completely.

They will be at least as good sounding and as versatile as anything you are looking at for $100 or less...

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 20, 2007 10:45 am

cool thanks... i think ill order some next pay ( next tuesday)... they have the older model .... 4pack for $20.00 + $8.00... what i got to lose lol... $28? lol Thanks for your advise.

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Sep 20, 2007 10:51 am

no problem, enjoy, a couple people here are using them now...

Czar of Midi
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Sep 20, 2007 08:07 pm

xkaplin, if you go here www.homerecordingconnecti...sic&id=2474 and have a listen to Leaving the Past Behind you will hear the K-Micro's in use on acoustic guitar as well as vocals. I don't think he used it on the electric's but I'm not sure.

I had very good luck and was very impressed with the little M-Micro's for sure. so much so I ordered one of the K6 Ribbon mic's without even hearing one. Just got it today, but won't have a chance to try it until next week. But I have had a short try with one of their K58's and it was outstanding.

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 21, 2007 09:07 am

Thanks so much for your help...both of you :)... i listened to that song and it sounds really good. I'm definately picking up a pack of them next week when i get paid.... one other question.... are the newer models a lot better than hte older or does it not make that big of a difference? I ask coz the newer are 2 for $30, and the older are 4 for $20.... thanks again! :)

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Sep 21, 2007 09:42 am

the newer ones are higher SPL I believe, so they will work better on drums, loud guitar amps and whatnot...

I think...

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 21, 2007 02:41 pm

Im going to sound stupid but... what is SPL ... how does that effect sound? how much of a difference would it make in these mics for vocals or acoustic guitar?? :) thanks!

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Sep 21, 2007 02:48 pm

sound pressure level

www.TheLondonProject.ca
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Sep 21, 2007 03:50 pm

Quote:
don't think he used it on the electric's but I'm not sure


The version of K-Micro's that I have will not work on high SPL's. They are also very hot. Most if not all of our vocals are with these mics as well as any acoustic tracks that you hear. I'm not sure how to tell which release of mic I have so I can't comment on whether or not they are suppose to handle the higher SPL's.

It's not like I have a huge mic locker but the K-Micro's are our go-to mic.

On "Leaving the Past Behind" we used 2 of the micros, one on the soundhole and one on the 12th of a Seagull 12 string.

On "I Know She Understands" we used 1 micro on a 6 string acoustic.

Vocals on both those songs used the micro's behind a pop filter, singing about 12" away from the mic.

Musician on a Mission
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Sep 21, 2007 04:01 pm

What would have high SPL's? Drums? I'm a tad electronically retarded at times lol... so bare with me please :)

BeerHunter... thanks a ton for your break down. The tracks sound good. I am definitely getting these mics next week when i get paid... I'm just trying to determine if i NEED need the ones with higher SPL or if the older ones would get the job done :)

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Sep 21, 2007 04:04 pm

High SPL's = drums, guitar amps and for whatever reason, I couldn't get a good take of a couple of cowbell hits.

Best way to describe it is to think of the types of sounds that would physically move the diaphram in the mic too much causing distortion.

BTW - I have used them as room mics to record drums but they had to be about 10 feet away from the kit.

I am not a crook's head
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Sep 21, 2007 08:41 pm

Simply put, high SPL means "loud". Some microphones handle loud sound sources better than others. Dynamic microphones generally are well-suited for high SPL applications. Condensor microphones are generally well-suited for applications where you want to pick up every nuance of the sound source, like acoustic guitars and vocals. Of course there are exceptions both ways.

Don't forget to factor in the cost of a pop filter when buying a microphone that you're going to sing into. Otherwise you'll get nearly uncontrollable plosives, sibilance, and breath/wind noise.

Czar of Midi
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Sep 21, 2007 09:31 pm

It looks as though they got it answered. But yes there is a difference if you are going to be recording any loud sources. The newer version still is a pretty hot mic as far as that goes, but it handles the higher SPL like drums and such much better. We used them close miccing a variety of sources like trumpet and other horns as well as hand percussion and such. They handled them all very well. Even a good old fashioned hron blast got into them quite nicely.

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