Aug 21, 2007 09:41 am Hey BooYa, Welcome to HRC.
Read this www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=154 it's a great article on the subject.
Mixing...?
Posted on Aug 21, 2007 09:27 am
BooYa
Member Since: Aug 20, 2007
Hey, whussup people. I got a few questions. How do you do your mixing, what are your ways and techniques.
I work with reason and cubase. I want to exchange some experience with you people. So thank you in advance.
P.S. How do you manage to make the kick and the bass to work together without sounding like s**t. How do you put the vocals INSIDE the mix?
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Aug 21, 2007 09:41 am Hey BooYa, Welcome to HRC.
Read this www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=154 it's a great article on the subject.
Aug 21, 2007 10:43 am side note... that's a really cool article!
Aug 21, 2007 02:01 pm There are soooo many things that could be discussed on this topic. It's all about putting things in their own places. And for vocals, I've found that a deEsser lets them sit in the mix a little better... Even if you don't have sibilance issues.
Aug 21, 2007 05:09 pm I'm a bit old school when it comes to mixing (I learned how to do it this way, and dammit I'm sticking to it). I start with the drums, and then bass, then rhythm guitars etc. and keep building until the mix sits right. The panning etc. is all a bit on the 'ju-ju' side of things, and I look at it as 'seasoning.' Adjust to taste (there's no reason that any instrument shouldn't sit anywhere in the soundfield so long as it sounds right to you).
The layering technique allows me to zero in on any one track that's sticking out/too low.
Another trick I've been using lately is to run a 'mastering' type plug-in on the output channel once I've got the rough mix done. It gives me a better feel for the finished product (I've been using Antress ModernDeepPurple) and the tweaking from there is all very tiny.
Aug 21, 2007 05:11 pm Yes, cool article dB-Wan.
Aug 21, 2007 07:52 pm Nice article, theres plenty for me to learn in there. Because I can't really say I really use any rules. Other than what my ears say.
Aug 22, 2007 04:42 am ears are good, and so it understanding what you're doing.
basically mixing comes down to three things *much like a 3D picture*
you have panning (left and right) you have reverb/delay (front to back) and you have dynamics (volume/presence).
first thing i do when mixing is pan everything out....that'll provide the initial "seperation" of some tracks. although ppl have reasons to start in mono and keep it until the end...it's a style thing.
eq ("tone") is what you use to 'carve' space for each track....kick and bass example: cut your bass at 80hz and boost the kick (if needed) and BAM!! you've got 'room' for the kick. now cut the kick at 120Hz and boost the bass (if needed) and now you got the kick down below 100Hz and not "stepping on" the bass" that's right above it.
same goes for vocals.....but they are kinda trickey because the 'mid range' is what our ears are tuned to *read: most sensitive* so the gaps are much smaller...distorted guitars cover ALOT of frequencies, and you gotta 'notch' out 'room' for the vocals....same goes with any other midrange instrument.
next is dynamics ("volume"), controlling this will give everything a 'smooth' feel (volume wise)
the last thing you want is the trumpet player to BELCH out a wailing run that stomps over everything else.....tame the volume levels so they all behave nicely together.
ok reverb and delay ("depth")....basically, the more reverb/delay you use the further away it sounds....so if you wanna push the drums back add some 'space' to them by adding reverb....echos sound 'spacey' because they are.
i can embellish if you'd like.
wyd
Aug 22, 2007 05:14 am Thanks dB. Nice article, indeed. But still, I gotta do smoe more playing with them vocals and instruments. It's a matter of experimenting, isn't it...
Aug 22, 2007 05:17 am basically the goal is to "carve out space" (frequency speaking) for them...
as a VERY general rule notch out damn near everything around 1-2khz and that'll do it...but the trick it getting all the 'gaps' just right.
Aug 22, 2007 07:44 am Quote:
I gotta do smoe more playing with them vocals and instruments.
Well, that's the trick for all of us, all the time, there is no magic bullet for a good mix, it's the crux of what the art is all about.
Aug 22, 2007 08:17 am Yep, 4 sure. I'll try that and play around with the frequences, but sometimes what is reasonable doesn't sound right to me.
Plus I got problem hooking up reason and cubase. I mean, I want to move all the channels from reason to cubase and mix the stuff in cubase. But I can't make em work together. Any ideas?
Aug 22, 2007 08:18 am these might be a good reference points to have in mind www.homerecordingconnecti...story&id=38 and www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=390
Aug 22, 2007 04:44 pm BooYa, if you go to the Reason page at Propellerhead. www.propellerheads.se/
You will find a ton of info on using Reason and what it can do. There are some tricks there as well.
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