I Know She Understands - remaster
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Posted on Aug 15, 2007 12:27 am
BeerHunter
www.TheLondonProject.ca
Member Since: Feb 07, 2005
Hey everyone, I was able to take advantage of an opportunity for free mastering of a song. I uploaded the remastered version and enabled downloading.
Let me know what you think. I think it helped it out quite a bit and I'm fairly impressed with the quality. The guy that did it for me normally charges $50 per song. I'd be curious to find out from you guys if you think it is worth the $50 or not.
Take care,
Lonnie
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 17, 2007 08:17 pm The file I had to compare it to was dated as June 28 which I assume was the most recent one uploaded before this one.
Honest opinion, I Liked your mix pretty well, but indeed this guy brought out some very good detail in the mix. He also brought the drums out without being over bearing. And the heavy parts sounds heavy without being over bearing as well.
What really stood out was the clearness of the vocal parts now. I am thinking it might just be worth the 50 smackers for that kind of sound in the end product. But be aware there are also some that will do as good a job for less in the end. It all depends on the clarity your looking to get I guess. Chelsea's voice really stands out nicely now which really adds to the mix.
The heavy part does still get a little on the thunderous side, but it fits well with the feel of the tune. The classical solo sounded a little brighter as well.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Aug 18, 2007 10:35 pm Hey Noise,
I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do as far as mastering. I think I got the track sounding good in the pre-master and with a little tweaking I *think I could get the same results.
Looking at the wav file I can "see" how squashed it is. I've always tried to stay away from the loudness war. Although I'm not sure exactly what he did to the track, to me it sounds like a lot of compression and the noise floor is raised and maybe a touch of EQ. I'm going to use this as a reference track and try and acheive the same results myself. We'll see though. If I can't do it or it takes a lot of time then I think I might have to part with a few bucks.
Aug 18, 2007 10:46 pm I was really impressed with the clarity on there. But as I remember it from listening before, he had a pretty damn good product to work with. I've said this before your stuff is something to use as a model.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 19, 2007 12:23 am I think you could easily duplicate what he did. And indeed, you had a very good pre-master to start with for sure.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Aug 19, 2007 02:03 pm I pretty much agree with Noize, it does have bit more polished sound to it. I don't have the previous one for a direct comparison but as I recall your mix sounded quite good to my ears, this one just has that little extra.
I'm sure with some fiddling you could definitley achieve the same result, though $50 isn't a bad price. I've considered doing the same even to the point of paying to have the mixing as well as the mastering done too one of my songs just to see what it would sound like being done by someone who really knows their stuff.
Dan
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Aug 19, 2007 02:29 pm I think that outsourcing mixing wouldn't be a bad idea at all. I end up to close to the project at times. I find that sometimes I'll hear one track louder than others only because I am focusing on it. Next thing I know all the levels are messed up. Outsourcing would probably help me out in this area.
However, a lot of the personality of the song is based on how it is mixed. Because of that, I don't think I could hand over my mixes to someone else.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 19, 2007 04:24 pm BH, in your case outsourcing the mixing probably wouldn't work for the very reasons you state. There is a bit of personal touch in your mixes that just would not be there from someone else. Just as the outsourced mastered version has a different feel to it because of the brightness he added. I have listened to both of them a few more times now, and although I do like the way he brought some stuff out, it does kind of take away some of the darkness that was in your pre mastered version. I think there has to be a middle road there somewhere in the final version of it that would suite it just dandy.
Again to the outsourcing mixes thing. I do mixing that way for tons of artist's and try very hard to get an exact idea of what they are trying to get to for the final product. There have been clients that I end up mixing the same track 25 times before they get to the point that I am happy and the client is happy. Many of them send their track's here thinking I can give them a sound they heard somewhere else. Funny enough though many of them find out that if that is the case I try very hard to persuade them to not follow an exact path. I will have them re-record tracks to get things the way I think they should be and then find a common ground somewhere. The client's idea is always the first thing to consider, but if it is going to sound like crap I will do everything in my power to try and change their mind to avoid sending out a track I think is crap.
