Alice Cooper Vocals - Brutal Planet...

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Wannabe Producer/Tech Student
Member Since: Aug 11, 2005

Hey people.

I don't know if there are many Alice fans on here, but I'm starting a new album soon that is intending to be very heavy and rammstein like in music.

Vocally, i want it to sound similar to alice cooper on his "Brutal Planet" album. Obviously, to get it exact Id need a kick *** voice like his lol, but i have noticed with that album his voice is very prominent and i suppose, powerful on that record, especially when compared with alot if not all his other stuff.

It sounds to me like its been recorded twice but my under-trained ears are not totally sure and are oblivious to any other things that might be going on with them.

I havent been able to find any uploaded version of the songs for people who don't know this album, but have found a myspace page with a song from the follow up album "dragontown" which has a similar vibe about it.

Anything people can tell me about the production of these vocals or any other tips for good post-production on dirty, heavy metal vocals would be greatly appreciated

cheers

link - profile.myspace.com/index...endID=206269080

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Since: Jan 26, 2004


Aug 04, 2007 02:53 pm

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Cheers ;)

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Aug 05, 2007 12:47 am

Its been awhile since I have listened to that stuff but I will give a listen and let you know what I think.

I'm pretty sure you are correct on the double tracked vox, or possibly use of a chorus and delay together which he had done in the past.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Aug 05, 2007 04:16 pm

Snakebite, I think the best way to approach that sound is the double track. But it almost sounds as though it was a simple duplicated track that is just bumped ahead or behind on the timeline by a few milleseconds to achieve that affect. I have done that before and it is fairly straight forward to do. A couple of things to watch though are do not go too far as it will cause phase issue's.

And also make sure to change up the tone on the duplicate track to give it a little bit different life.

The topper is of course a long delayed echo that is very slight and only used lightly in certain parts for dramatic effect.

Wannabe Producer/Tech Student
Member
Since: Aug 11, 2005


Aug 05, 2007 05:50 pm

ah yes, that sounds like the way to go. Ive been experimenting with a vocal track recorded twice to achieve the sound, but it comes out way to prominent i.e. what i have done is far too obvious, not as subtle as alice voice effect, it sounds really obvious that its been sung twice, very unatural - the idea of the actually copying the track sounds like it will get me better results. ill have a go and let you know how i get on.

what do you mean by "change up the tone"? as in eq differntly to give a differnt sound?

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Aug 06, 2007 08:47 pm

Yep, just change the EQ up very slightly so it is a little more distinct from the original track. That and the combination of the slightly bumped ahead or behind copy will give you that kind of effect.

And ya, getting a second take that is a mirror image of the first is almost impossible for most of us. But that too can be messed with to attain a doubled sound by panning and watching the level that the duplicate track is on.

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