Real time sequencing doesn't add the RHYTHMIC GATING why
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Posted on Jul 01, 2007 12:06 am
walters
Member Since: May 10, 2005
Real time sequencing doesn't add the RHYTHMIC GATING why?
Which DAW records midi messages for sequencing?
instead of step recording i can step record in real-time and record it onto a DAW track and it will be sync up to the drum machine meter/tempo of the song how can i do this please?
If i use a seperate sequencer 16 track or 32 track sequencer the meter/tempo and midi sync is hard to LOCK up all together with the DAW's drum machine track and song chords it would be better if the DAW had the sequencing tracks built in intergeted in one because of the meter/tempo and midi sync is hard to LOCK up
I mostly set my sequencer METER to 4/4 because most of my songs are in 4/4 .
But when you step record the note values you have to go to alot of menus to pick which note value you want per BEAT its really annoying
I think using a midi scoring software would be easier to score out the step record notes onto a score right?
The problem is that when i playback the midi scored out step record data that goes midi out to a keyboard voice brain and then audio output to record to a DAW 4/4 drum machine track#1 the lagency/delay is offset so it throughs off the meter/tempo/sync alot
If the drum machine track#1 is 4/4 meter and 90 bpm tempo
and the midi scoring software sequencer is 4/4 meter , 90 bpm tempo
there is a Allignment problem i'm having from the time interval of the software date going to out of the midi output triggering the keyboards midi voices and then out of the keyboards audio output going to the DAW track#2 to record the audio sequencer sound it does offset the drum machine audio track with the sequencer track audio
"lock up all together" - WHAT?
1.) sequencer tempo with the DAW to the drum machine recorded on the DAW track
2.) sequencer meter with the DAW to the drum machine recorded on the DAW track
3.) sequencer Midi CLOCK with the DAW drum machine recorded track
"step record in real time" - WHAT?
1.) Real time sequencer lets you record in real time using a midi controller using the keyboard keys but DOESN"T lets you enter in the duration values,slurs,ties,etc. how can i do this in real time sequencing?
"you have to go to alot of menus to pick which note value you want per BEAT" - WHAT?
1.) To enter in the duration values,slurs,ties,etc can't be DONE doing real time sequencing why is that?
I think using a midi scoring software would be easier to score out the step record notes" -WHAT?
1.) yes a Notation software for midi notation scoring
The Roland MC 505 and Alesis Micron has sequencers built in
When i step record the note durations,note values,slurs,ties, it sounds more gated when when i do "real-time" sequencing
Real time sequencing doesn't add the RHYTHMIC GATING why is that?
and How can i add the Rhythmic gating, note durations,note values,slurs,ties in "real time sequencing"?
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 01, 2007 01:24 am Wow, I'm confused.
That said, have you even tried anything like Sonar or the like? It does all that and more in one software application. And even back in the day when I still used hardware sequencers and locked them to tape machines I didn't have the kind of trouble you seem to be having.
On the other note of latency and timing issues. That is the fault of the sound card. I'll assume you are using a built in sound card or a sound blaster type of card, as most audio interfaces today have very low latency unless there is something set very wrong in the DAW or the cards software interface.
And dude, do you have to ask the same question like 6 times in one post.
Jul 01, 2007 05:54 am Hey! Isn't this guy that crazy dude who always posts stoopid things around forums?
Yes? No? Just throwing it out there....
Jul 01, 2007 05:56 am It Is! Yay! haha
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jul 01, 2007 07:51 am Rhythmic Gating isn't a midi issue. You have to have a gate that can side chain.
www.soundonsound.com/sos/...techniques.html
If you have a gate that can side chain and it is working properly in nonrealtime it is probably a latency issue.
Step recording on the other hand cannot be done in real time. Thats because it is only meant for composition where the piece is too difficult to play in real time and notational software is not available. Basically you cannot quantize in real time.
Jul 02, 2007 07:41 am Why do I get a headache every time I read a post from this guy? The one thing I can respond to is the comments on step time sequencing and having to pick note length and such for each note.
Not sure how NOT to do that, until sequencers have some sort of mind reading function it'd be hard to have an app predict the note duration one wants.
I typcially pick the length of the standard rhtyhm of the song, if it's driving eighth note I pick eights notes and quickly step thru clicking them in the MIDI map...then go back htru and drag lengths to what I want on any single note.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 02, 2007 06:04 pm For me its not so much a headache, but my eys spin around in my head like a cartoon character does. And I hear this noise kind of like wubba wubba wubba.
Anyway, after reading it through a couple more times it sounds like step sequencing is not doing what he wants and is questioning if it wouldn't be better to play it in real time to record it.
As I stated above, simply use something along the lines of Sonar or Cubase or the like. Then all the nuance's of the performance will be there.
Jul 03, 2007 07:51 am Yeah, but it's funny and irritating at the same time. Walters makes me feel smart...I like him. :-D
