WHAT DO YOU THINK ?

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Hindu Not Hitler !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Member Since: May 28, 2007

I am recording music with my friend. He plays drums and I have an electric drum set. When we are going to reoord with his real drum set and he doesn't want to use the electric because it sounds "Too Perfect". So he is going to send his money one drum mics. Is it worth it to buy drum mics? I think the electric sounds ok.

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Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Jun 05, 2007 09:41 pm

how does his kit sound? if it's a good kit, in good condition, with new heads that are tuned well, and has no squeeky pedals then yeah it'll sound better.

i tracked a band with a drummer that had v-drums....i lost every bit of respect for them that i had (the drums that is)...i HATE electronic drum kits. atleast for recording rock music. techno or r&b, sure no prob.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Jun 05, 2007 10:06 pm

Wow,

Lots of thoughts. I agree with WYD to this degree, it depends on the genre'. I think it also depends largely what you want. Quite frankly one example is the death drum sound used at present in some heavier rock. You are going to have to spend a pretty fair amount of money on the drum mics, and then probably work over the recording in software to where it becomes as synthetic as electronic kit production anyway. I like recording acoustic kits. I like the challange, I love the natural sound, but many of my 'clients' want competitive sounds which sometimes dont lend to the use of acoustic kits. Also echoing WYD, a lot depends on your drummer and the kit you are using. I have found a couple of drummers that have good kits that are well maintained and well tuned that sound very good in a recording. Those individuals usualy are also fairly seasoned drummers and have very good control, which is also essential for a real good recording. As far as becoming technicaly proficient at being a recording engineer, there is nothing like an acoustic kit for learning.

Hobbyist musician,pro recorder
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Since: May 15, 2007


Jun 05, 2007 10:38 pm

If he has the money to spend, he probably should, since if he is going to be playing and recording drums well into the future the situation will come up many times over.

However, speaking as one who cannot afford to buy mics, I can tell you that good drum sounds can be had with not only regular (non-drum) mics but even just ONE mic. Many, many classic recordings were made that way. Yes, by the 60's it was relatively standard to have two mics, one for the kick and one overhead. But I have gotten good results with just the overhead.

Just depends on how much definition and sepoaration one wants.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jun 05, 2007 10:57 pm

I don't know what you were using WYD for the triggered sounds, but I have not used real drums in years. And no one notices the difference here. I use a trigger kit or simply write the drum parts out. I use a variety of drum samplers in the PC Drumcore being one of them. I also use both an Alesis DM5 and Roland TD6 as outboard drum synths. I think it really depends on the samples used as well and how well you work with them. I never use processed samples to start with. Only raw un effected samples. Then I go to work on em after they are recorded.

And indeed it is the ability of the player on the kit to make them sound real. Practice is essential when switching to triggers. It is a completely different playing style.

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