May 31, 2002 10:20 am OK, what format is the file in, .avi? And what are you playing it through, Window Media Player? Have you tried it through other players, what version(s)? Have you tried burning it as a video CD rather than data CD?
File disruption on CD
Posted on May 31, 2002 10:09 am
Walt
Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member Since: May 10, 2002
In the last episode (tail of other thread) Walt descovers that a video he has created for his wife's 3rd grade class plays fine from the origional file but once transfered to a CD suffers from video disruption and ends halfway through with a page error.
dB Master mentions that this should realy be the begining of a new thread and asks if the file has changed format.
And so a new thread it is! I'll get the hang of this forum thing yet! hehehehe
No change in file format. Simply used coaster creater 5 to make a streight data disk with only the one file burnt to cd. Files are same size. Even whey I copy the file back hard disk and play it I get the effects of the corrupted file. Went back one more time to the origional file and it still plays fine.
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May 31, 2002 10:20 am OK, what format is the file in, .avi? And what are you playing it through, Window Media Player? Have you tried it through other players, what version(s)? Have you tried burning it as a video CD rather than data CD?
May 31, 2002 10:25 am Sorry, I realy didn't mean to play hide and seek!
The file extension is [mov]. This is new ground for me. I don't understand the differences yet between mov,jpeg,avi,and eieio. It plays on Quicktime. My version is 5.0.1. I tried burning it as a video cd but easy coaster had a fit about the file format. Wanted me to convert it to another eieio. Right now I have to mow the lawn to keep my happy home heheheh, but tonight I will try to follow the instructions and create a file in the suggested format. I have access to Adobe Premier. That is the origin of the file. I noticed premier has a number of file formats to choose from.
May 31, 2002 10:33 am mov is a quicktime movie.
<personal opinion>
I frickin HATE quicktime
</personal opinion>
I would suggest you use an .avi file and burn that as either data or video CD. Whenever I work with video I work with it as an avi until it gets down to encoding for streaming (if that is what is planned for it) then, and only then, changing the format to .rm, .asf, .wmv or whatever the chosen encoding is.
I personally am no video guru, but I am starting to work with it quit often (over the last year or so) and have never had good luck with .mov
As a final encoding for burning you may want to try .mpg as well, as that can yeild higher performance too, so if the avi doesn't fly for ya, try .mpg and see how that works. After it is in .mpg though don't try to use it in premeire for additional editing, as it's my experience that premeire does not groove on working with that format, just encoding to it.
May 31, 2002 06:31 pm Results of experiment two.
Created movie as an [avi] file for windows. Noticed premire indicated [no compression]. Created movie to HDD. Used Coaster creater at 8x (24x capable) to create a data CD with the one movie. Playback from CD (now coming up on Real One, has some video hashing, but runs full length and does not crash program or computer! Definate improvement! Ran fine from HDD (origional) and hashing is not there. Also came up on Real One obviously.
Read book on Coaster Creater(felt very un-macho) and the video disk burner is babbling about DVD. Does this mean that I need a DVD player to play this thing?
I probably need a book of video for dummies.
May 31, 2002 07:58 pm No it does not mean you need a DVD...I dunno why the book says that (I rarely read the book and feel quite macho:-) recording a video CD is playable on any CDROM as long as you have the player to play it (in your case RealOne), and video CD's also play on many DVD players for you TV, so you can watch them on your TV set.
Video is not much different from audio at the production level, it's all multimedia. mpg is a very common format to use as well, maybe give that a try.
The reason your CD is 'hashing' is because your CDROM is not as fast as your hard drive, very common, and if you save it as an avi with some compression to make the file smaller it will probably play smoother from your CDROM.
FYI, you may want to try opening it through Windows Media Player and seeing how it plays through that, if it is better, go into Windows file options and set the default app for avi to Windows Media Player, as it seems RealOne has hijacked that preference.
May 31, 2002 10:08 pm Thank you so very much for dumming it down a little for me. This is starting to make sense now with what I am seeing for paramaters in both premier and coaster creater. The CD transfer rate makes sense to me as well. Steaming is very new to me.
Many third grader's send their thanks along with mine!
I will get back on the net to find something to convert to [mpg] and try that. I have a little Kodak camera that creates [mov]. I found a converter on the net that got me to [avi] and into premier for editing and joining etc. I see no output option for [mpg] on primier yet or in the little file converter.
I must say this is a lot of fun. Putting the music I make in back of videos and pictures I take. I am having a ball all by myself!
Thanks again!
Jun 01, 2002 06:11 am I am almost sure Premiere can output to mpg...I couldn't tell ya where, but I am sure it's there...
Technically, what you are doing is not "streaming", but I am glad I could help, having some third graders on my side can never be bad :-)
Streaming is technically playing it over the net where it is being downloaded AS it is being played back (like RealPlayer media)
Glad you are having fun withit, I enjoy working with video as well, it can be frustrating because it is much slower to work with than audio, but it is fun.
Jun 01, 2002 10:38 am This Premier thing is a little wierd. But then Adobe and I don't exactly see eye to eye. Maybe their programers are sane people so we can't connect. heheheh
I agree with your assesement of quick time so Poof! I removed it! Now Premier will not recognize any [jpg] files. Just not there in any of the options anymore! I can't find any "go find it and attach yourself" menue in Premier so maybe it only happens on initial install? Who knows!
However workarounds I found, I did! It still will use [tif] and I can save to that via photoshop. I also found that coaster creater has a little video editor which will output to [mpg]! It is a little combersome as it is necessary to load the [avi] file out of premier into a watered down editor in Coaster and the either save or write directly to CD.
Of course you know this means that the next school field trip will be to your house? hehehe
No good dead shall go unpunished!
Jun 01, 2002 11:35 am One app you may wish to look into down the road is Sonic Foundry Vegas Video, I use it a lot, not only is a great video editor (it smokes premeire in my book) but it is also a heck of an audio editor, rivaling Cubase, Cakewalk and Logic. SO this app you could do all things multimedia.
Just a thought...
Oh, and jpg files must be imported into the library before use.
Jun 01, 2002 01:24 pm Hey Walt. Like dB said, Vegas is very intuitive. I have used integrated audio/video app's. for a while. CakeWalk has it integrated into their stuff since version 7. It is not the best video app., but it work's for doing scoring work. But if you are going to go buy something for the use you are talking about, Vegas is the way to go.
Jun 01, 2002 11:19 pm As always you guys blow me away! Vegas it shall be! Of course that's right after Megneto and Waves native. Hey that's what the sock drawer with all the gig money in it is for! Next two months are booking up good too!
Jun 02, 2002 12:52 am Vegas Video 3:
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
I use it for multitracking AND video editing...it's the best for someone like us, and into both areas of multimedia...I can promise you would be thoroughly impressed! I am!
Every other app is either weak on video and rocks in audio, or vice-versa...this is a great app for both!
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