Apr 25, 2007 02:59 pm save me a seat...I want outta here.
A New Earth??
Posted on Apr 25, 2007 02:54 pm
BeerHunter
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www.news.com.au/dailytele...5001021,00.html
Time to climb aboard the Millineum Falcon and go check it out!
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Apr 25, 2007 03:10 pm heh, what if we show up, and it's a planet full of carnivorous baddies. Like 80ft tall. With huge teeth, and always hungry.
That'd suck.
It's probably not, though. Probably like Tahiti, in the 1700s. Full of friendly people, just waiting for us to move in =).
Apr 25, 2007 03:22 pm If that's the case I'll just kick their asses...
Apr 25, 2007 03:28 pm probably seen the cycle of life blossoming and then destroying itself, already.
Apr 25, 2007 05:04 pm now we need one of those next-gen scopes to go up so we can look at the light the planet is reflecting and determine its atmospheric constituents. if methane and oxygen come back in the spectra, it would mean there's probably definitely some kind of life there.
this star is interesting. if you were on this planet the star would take up an appreciable portion of the sky. it would be huge, because the planet's so close to it.
red dwarf stars are the subject of much debate when it comes to et life. eithe great candidates or terrible ones.
.end report.
Apr 25, 2007 06:34 pm I bet it already has a Starbucks.
Apr 25, 2007 09:04 pm I guess the real question is... 'does it have oil?' :)
at 20.5LY ...unless I'm really screwing up my math (which is very likely) it's only take 357,372 years to get there at current technology. ...but I'm sure we can improve upon that once we get fusion hammered out...
Apr 25, 2007 09:26 pm i havent done the calculation, but i'm pretty sure its way more than that, using today's technology.
Apr 25, 2007 09:35 pm I was using Voyagers escape velocity (past pluto) at around 38,000 MPH...
Xenon Ion drives should be able to do 60,000mph
plus I'm not sure of time dilation effects due to high velocity...
Apr 25, 2007 10:12 pm huh. looks like you may be right. i couldnt figure out how to use exponents in google calculator at first, but now that i can it looks like 511,000 years or so at voyager's speed.
now go and look into time dilation!
Apr 26, 2007 12:43 am It's probably ruled by the evil twin brother of dB, where it's law to use only protools in proper commercial studios and all home based music has been outlawed!
Apr 26, 2007 06:49 am I knew that bastard was up to no good!
Apr 26, 2007 10:57 am We need one of those big ol' space worms that fold space....
Er.....I went all "Dune" nerd then....Sorry.
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If that's the case I'll just kick their asses...
I sense hostility. Whatever happened to "We come in peace"?
Apr 26, 2007 11:02 am It's the same as in all sci-fi alien movies:
We must kill what we don't understand.
Apr 26, 2007 11:05 am Quote:
We must kill what we don't understand.
Man, there is a t-shirt or bumper sticker in there somewhere...
Apr 26, 2007 11:10 am I'll send you one for $19.95...
Yep, it's a universal sentiment, applied frequently on Earth as well.
Apr 26, 2007 09:44 pm forty, don't say scopes and up in the same sentence, it makes me cringe.
Anyway, indeed that looks like something of interest. But if we got there, we'd just mess it up anyway. Its probably inhabited by giant amazon women anyway.
Apr 27, 2007 12:44 am why do those two words make you cringe noize?
Apr 27, 2007 05:49 am if anyone wants to see where this planet is, click here.
notes:
that 't' shape rising at the hills there is the 'head' of scorpius (all you october birthdays have the coolest constellation next to orion, in my opinion. if you've never seen your scorpion, you should check it out, in the south, these spring nights. it will be rising earlier in the evening as spring moves along. you'll know it mostly by the huge, huge coiled tail.
anyway, the constellation right above it is libra. HIP74995, off the leftmost upper star, is the catlogue name for gliese 581. that's where the planet is.
you won't be able to see the star, even with a telescope, i'm pretty sure. certainly not with youre naked eyes or with binocs. most red dwarfs are realllllly dim, and this is one of 'em. but it's kind of cool to look at that spot and realize that there's definitely a rocky world in the habitable zone of a star, in that location in the sky.
food for thought.
Apr 27, 2007 07:59 am Quote:
why do those two words make you cringe noize?
I suspect it has something to do with his last Colonoscopy
Apr 27, 2007 08:37 am thats why I use www.newvitality.com/productDesc.aspx?prodId=257
and have for years...mine is squeaky clean and gonna stay that way! Ya gotta use the powder though, the pills just don't work the same.
Plus, few things in life are more rewarding than a massive dump in the morning...dumps you can brag about! :-D
Apr 27, 2007 10:25 am From outer space to the lower intestine in 23 posts..
Welcome to HRC.
Apr 27, 2007 10:31 am To boldly go, where no man has gone before . . .
and hopefully never will =0
Apr 27, 2007 07:44 pm forty, yep dB has it nailed. I've had 8 of them in the last 4 years. And 3 years ago they did 2 in one day, just for giggles me thinks. The doc said he thinks he may have missed something on the first pass.
But indeed stars rock. This fall we do a high ropes challenge course and there is always an astronomy club that comes there because of the dark setting. Most of them have those ultimate digital trackers but a few are old school like me. I own a 6 ffot monster that is going to cost me around $2000.00 for a new lens as it is very old and will need to be custom ground. Not sure I want to spend that kind of money on an old analog tele that I have to aim manually.
Apr 27, 2007 08:56 pm damn, yeah. one of my serious goals is to own a very large scope within a few years. this'll be a hobby i stick with for life. music too, of course.
Apr 27, 2007 09:06 pm Ya, as a little kid I had a neighbor who was into some serious tele action. In fact he sold me that big monster scope shortly before he passed away. I was still too young to really get it then, but I listened to every word he said. And sat patiently while he dialed that thing in to find some amazing stuff. He owned about 15 or so of varied size and such. But that monster was my favorite, you could see everything so clearly. At least in my young eyes it was like that. I have not used it in over 5 years since the lens cracked and kind of miss just messing about with it. Talking to one of the masters of the digital scopes that are at the place I described above he stated I could fit the thing with the automation for around $800.00 plus the cost of a cheap laptop if I went that route. Otherwise with a hand held wired link control box it would be about a grand all said and done. I am truly tempted to do that.
Apr 27, 2007 09:08 pm By the way dB, nice commercial for AloeEase!
Speaking of which, I am out of my herbal tea and must make a phone call or email to acquire some more.
Apr 27, 2007 09:21 pm Speaking of astronomy, were you aware of this?
www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/stereo/main/index.html
Get out your 3-D glasses. Mine are in a box somewhere.
Apr 28, 2007 03:39 am one of the very interesting thing about red dwarf stars is that planets that are in the habitable zone of these stars are 'tidally locked' like our moon is. one side faces the sun all the time. the orbit of a planet in the hab zone of such a star is very near the star (the year on this planet lasts 13 days--one circuit of the sun every 13 days). it's so close that the gravitational interaction locks the one face toward the star, like our moon.
it's unclear what that would mean for a planet with an atmosphere. at first it was thought that one side would bake and the other would freeze. now some have done calculations which show that if there are seas, the temps would even out as a result of currents. even airflow could mediate it too, turns out.
the big 'if' is now the flare question. these stars emit burps of radiation which is harmful to the kind of life we know.
only when they get older do they quiet down.
May 07, 2007 11:47 am Quote:
Plus, few things in life are more rewarding than a massive dump in the morning...dumps you can brag about!
is that what you 40 years do then? I do that now!
May 07, 2007 01:17 pm I can't believe that astronomy and the lower digestive system both came into play in a forum thread and nobody has made a "Uranus" joke yet. Sheesh, we're slipping! :-D
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