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Posted on Jan 22, 2007 12:50 pm
BoDaycious
Member Since: Jan 22, 2007
Whats up HRC? I'm new to the site. I was wondering if anyone had any information on SAE in Nashville. I plan on attending the school in the summer. I've been trying to research a little because I don't want to attend a school that isn't going to teach me the things I need to know. I've talked to a few people that have went there and they say that I should just go to the four year college. The thing is, I'm 25 years old and really don't plan on going to another four year school. I know the tuition is high for 9 months, but I'm willing to pay that. I just want to know if I work really hard at it when I go and do great, will the outcome be worth it? Thanks for reading this. Any information will be appreciated.
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Jan 22, 2007 07:10 pm Hi and welcome, BoDaycious.
I went to SAE, Auckland for the Diploma in Audio Engineering.
And because my marks were above the 80% threshold I went on to SAE, Byron Bay the centre of the SAE universe.
I am 3/4 of the way through my degree BA(hons) audio engineering and was offered a job as the studio manager and engineer in training.
SAE has a relationship with Middlesex University, Ldn. This year papers are available extramurally.
In terms of cost, it was cheaper than the annual costs of the private school I attended for 6 years. In terms of the cost of a NZ university BA it is basically the same. So same money, same status, specialist audio degree over 3 as opposed to 5 years.
In terms of the practical element, the diploma course had a higher component than the degree, but you have to expect that.
In terms of the industry, I think it is as for other industries that are practically oriented, you can only learn from doing. They can teach you in a classroom how to technically milk a cow, but its only when you are in a shed day in day out, that you learn how to milk a herd.
You can learn to milk good enough to milk so long as an experienced person is running the shed and good enough to milk a couple of times a year for some extra cash.
Or you can learn to milk, so that you know how soil fertility, pasture management, cow health, cow genetics etc impact on milk volume. You can add to this the knowledge of running a business and managing a team of people. etc etc.
I learned what I needed to get started on my own, by being a member of hrc. And when I had problems came back to discuss them here.
SAE doesn't help with the actual aspects of mixing and recording. I doubt any course does. Like all qualifications, they function as part of the process to increase your confidence and at the same time allow the public, in particular, prospective employers to identify you. The advantage is that doing the course, persisting with it and passing it speaks volumes about your ability and determination to set goals and successfully fulfill them.
I view SAE as an investment in my future, as a way of getting my foot in the door. Once in the door its all up to me.
When I was doing the course, I often wondered wth I was doing it for. I love to record and mix, not sit and listen to people who aren't really good enough to do it or aren't able to take the risk to do it, or can't get on with the people who are involved with it, within the industry etc.
But I am glad that I did it, because I am one of only a few with a formal qualification specialising in audio engineering, which is one less limiting factor in my favour for the very limited positions available in the industry, and one more fairly sizable limiting factor for those with whom I am competing for a job.
I'm not sure whether I am going to complete my degree at the moment. I wan't to, but my days are fairly full at the moment.
Once you are in the industry though, you see how fairly flimsy it is and also how creatively limiting it is. However, for me, its good enough at this stage. But I will continue trying to distinguish myself by actual recording, mixing etc and also through formal qualifications.
My goal is to learn from the people who know what they are doing. So for now, I have to do what needs to be done, in order to keep that goal alive and attainable.
I come here because I not only like to help, but also to get advice. Most of what I learned about recording, mixing and mastering I learned from this site and from my home studio. My aim has always been to put that together with common sense.
Cheers,
C_S
Jan 22, 2007 07:16 pm Sorry bout the long post.
I just want to add, that I am 17 yrs old. I am not sure that what I am thinking about for eg the merits of an SAE education, is necessarily of benefit to a 25 yr old.
Jan 22, 2007 07:20 pm I just want to add, that that was my mum :-).
Jan 22, 2007 07:23 pm Great minds think alike
Jan 22, 2007 07:29 pm Muppet
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 22, 2007 10:26 pm hmmm, i had a fight with myself, but i couldn't get a word in edge-wise!
Kaos62Kaos is only a form of insanityMember
Since: Feb 03, 2005
Jan 23, 2007 12:39 am I always lose when arguing with myself!!!
Jan 23, 2007 03:02 pm Thanks for the advice. I guess I have a little more time to think about it. But I really still plan on attending the school. I'm sure I'll benefit from it.
Jan 23, 2007 03:04 pm It's always a mixed bag in regards to spending money going to school or making money as an entry level person actually working in a studio...it totally depends on the type of person you are.
Myself, I don't do well in a classroom setting, I learn better by doing and/or watching things being done.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jan 23, 2007 04:31 pm Wait, I'm lost on the whole 17 vs. 25 thing. I would think your end goals would have more bearing on if it's benefits.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 23, 2007 10:18 pm CS, did Mum write that. That sounded way too much like how she would have put it? :-)
Anyway, I must agree with CS ramblings there. He pretty much laid it all out straight as it could be.
Tripps, the thing is at 17 your brain is still able to absorb information at an incredible rate. At 25 it has already lost a great deal of the ability to retain and learn at a rapid pace. Partly because of all the information it already contains.
A perfect example is I can remember my phone number as a child from the place we lived 40 years ago. I now have trouble remembering my own current work number. My brain is just still too full of old information. I need to derfag it.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jan 23, 2007 11:26 pm yeah Noise... here's those command line options
fsck -F fat40 /dev/brain -o beer smokes tv
then
mount /dev/wife /home/[username]/bed/
./configure
make
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 24, 2007 12:00 am heh, we just got the brain age game for our kids DS-lite. The missus did the brain check, and it said her brain is 60 years old (she's not broken the 40 barrier yet).
My 12 year old son did the brain check, and it said he's got a 41 year old brain, meaning considerably better than 60.
I haven't tried it yet, frankly, I'm not sure I want to know =)
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 24, 2007 12:01 am Quote:
I need to derfag it.
heh, sounds like a german cigarette =)
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 24, 2007 11:51 am Sorry Colonel, is the milk pasteurized, or homogenized?
I usually only drink organic, but I don't like the super-pasteurized stuff. Does this affect my mixing?
If I learn to milk a cow, or a herd, will it help me setting my compressor?
Do Epiphone make milkers?
What are the pros and cons of tube milking stools?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
}8^P
Feeling a little bratty today.
Jan 25, 2007 07:09 am Lipstick, TallChap. lol.
Superpasteurised? wth? Milk is organic. lol.
Use of compressors in the milking sheds only need to be reset under certain circumstances - good point TallChap. So it is a good idea to know how to reset your scroll and refrigeration compressors, otherwise other organisms will be drinking up the milk.
Epiphone makes milk rock, as a major sponsor in the Milk Rocks campaign. hahahah.
The stool? Now, you're just being silly.
Jan 25, 2007 07:15 am Ya Noize. She dictated the cow egs. And now look at the stick I'm taking.
By the way TallChap how tall are you?
Cheers,
an enquiring mind
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 25, 2007 11:41 am Only 6'4", but I'm a Brit, so people my height are few and far between there. Not so here in the US.
Lipstick? It's to do with my kilt...
Q: What is worn under the kilt?
A: On a good day, lipstick.
Stool? Silly?
I'll have you know that the United Dairy/Vacuum Tube workers Union will be very hurt....
Jan 25, 2007 03:57 pm Mbwahhahahaha. I have a new appreciation for lipstick!
Sorry to say tho, but I might be a little taller, lol.
Jan 25, 2007 04:32 pm *cough*
Since I have been implicated...
How are you Noize. We are still looking forward to you taking a visit down this way.
For BoDaycious - good luck with your decision and I hope it all works out for you.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 25, 2007 09:44 pm BoysMum, I am doing well. A little too busy for my own good, but well. I as well am still looking forward to a trip there as well. Although my timeline is now pushed out and is undetermined as of yet. But I am still keeping it on my priority list as a must do and soon. I will keep you posted though for sure.
And it was nice to see you pop in. Implicated or not.
Jan 27, 2007 01:10 pm Thanks.
